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Here is a real world adapter that does protocol conversion of CCS to Tesla's protocol. It's big, clumsy, and finicky: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEE2o6_FRx

Here is a real world adapter that does protocol conversion of CCS to Tesla's protocol. It's big, clumsy, and finicky: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEE2o6_FRxc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEE2o6_FRxc Here is a real world example of a dumb adapter for J3400 to CCS Type 1 combo. It does no protocol conversion. It's smaller, simpler, and works: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3-0xRTduPI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3-0xRTduPI Just accept the practical reality that Tesla's protocol is dead. CCS is the protocol going forward. CCS won.

Dylan16807 2y ago
> It's big, clumsy, and finicky It's big because it's going from the bigger plug to the smaller plug. A dumb adapter would be the same size. And it's very much not an example of a pure protocol converter that isn't changing plugs. It's finicky because it's a prototype. > Just accept the practical reality that Tesla's protocol is dead. CCS is the protocol going forward. CCS won. What makes you think I don't accept this? What does this have to do with anything I've said?
- peutetre 2y ago
  > It's big because it's going from the bigger plug to the smaller plug. A dumb adapter would be the same size. No. Here is Tesla's CCS to J3400 dumb adapter. It is smaller, simpler, and works: https://shop.tesla.com/product/ccs-combo-1-adapter?web=true https://shop.tesla.com/product/ccs-combo-1-adapter?web=true > What makes you think I don't accept this? Everything you have said up to this point.
  - Dylan16807 2y ago
    > No. Here is Tesla's CCS to J3400 dumb adapter. It is smaller, simpler, and works: https://shop.tesla.com/product/ccs-combo-1-adapter?web=true https://shop.tesla.com/product/ccs-combo-1-adapter?web=true There is no technical reason the adapter in the video wasn't this size (assuming it supports the same current). Adding a chip does not require it to be bigger than this. I don't know why that one was bigger, but it wasn't the active/passive distinction. > Everything you have said up to this point. How so? Do you think I'm arguing this because I'm a Tesla fanboy and want the win to go to them? I assure you that's not the case. I just think plug matters more than protocol as a general statement for EV charging. Please explain how CCS being a definitive winner affects a single thing I have said.
    - peutetre 2y ago
      Here is Tesla's CHAdeMO to Tesla protocol adapter. It's big, clumsy, and they've stopped selling it: https://www.tesla.com/sites/default/files/chademo-adapter-manual-in-english.pdf https://www.tesla.com/sites/default/files/chademo-adapter-ma... Here's a CCS to CHAdeMO adapter. It's big, clumsy, and expensive: https://evniculus.eu/products/adapter-ccs2-to-chademo-for-nissan-leaf https://evniculus.eu/products/adapter-ccs2-to-chademo-for-ni...

Dylan16807 2y ago

> It's big, clumsy, and finicky It's big because it's going from the bigger plug to the smaller plug. A dumb adapter would be the same size. And it's very much not an example of a pure protocol converter that isn't changing plugs. It's finicky because it's a prototype. > Just accept the practical reality that Tesla's protocol is dead. CCS is the protocol going forward. CCS won. What makes you think I don't accept this? What does this have to do with anything I've said?

peutetre 2y ago
> It's big because it's going from the bigger plug to the smaller plug. A dumb adapter would be the same size. No. Here is Tesla's CCS to J3400 dumb adapter. It is smaller, simpler, and works: https://shop.tesla.com/product/ccs-combo-1-adapter?web=true https://shop.tesla.com/product/ccs-combo-1-adapter?web=true > What makes you think I don't accept this? Everything you have said up to this point.
- Dylan16807 2y ago
  > No. Here is Tesla's CCS to J3400 dumb adapter. It is smaller, simpler, and works: https://shop.tesla.com/product/ccs-combo-1-adapter?web=true https://shop.tesla.com/product/ccs-combo-1-adapter?web=true There is no technical reason the adapter in the video wasn't this size (assuming it supports the same current). Adding a chip does not require it to be bigger than this. I don't know why that one was bigger, but it wasn't the active/passive distinction. > Everything you have said up to this point. How so? Do you think I'm arguing this because I'm a Tesla fanboy and want the win to go to them? I assure you that's not the case. I just think plug matters more than protocol as a general statement for EV charging. Please explain how CCS being a definitive winner affects a single thing I have said.
  - peutetre 2y ago
    Here is Tesla's CHAdeMO to Tesla protocol adapter. It's big, clumsy, and they've stopped selling it: https://www.tesla.com/sites/default/files/chademo-adapter-manual-in-english.pdf https://www.tesla.com/sites/default/files/chademo-adapter-ma... Here's a CCS to CHAdeMO adapter. It's big, clumsy, and expensive: https://evniculus.eu/products/adapter-ccs2-to-chademo-for-nissan-leaf https://evniculus.eu/products/adapter-ccs2-to-chademo-for-ni...