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> as density grows mass transit becomes essential since it can far surpass the maximum throughput capacity of even the largest roadways. Once again this idiocy
by pif 2y ago
> as density grows mass transit becomes essential since it can far surpass the maximum throughput capacity of even the largest roadways.
Once again this idiocy! Planners love so much to talk about throughput, and then they are surprised when people "do not understand". People do understand: people know that the only important metric is door-to-door time!
Nobody could care less about how many people can get to the station! Everybody just wants to minimize the time wasted within transportation, because the 24 hours in a day are not expandable.
I've never been to New York, please don't take this as a critic specific to this city. It's just that I'm tired of planners trying to "evangelize" the people while ignoring their actual concern.
- imtringued 2y agoDriving a car in NYC isn't going to be much faster than taking the bus.
- pif 2y agoIt depends on where you live and work with respect to the nearest stations, and on how many legs your trip consist of.
- Jcowell 2y agoIf this is New york, and we’re talking alot using manhattan to get somewhere, your car isn’t beating the train unless someone throws themselves in the track
- pif 2y ago> your car isn’t beating the train Doesn't it depend on where you live with respect to the nearest station? Doesn't it depend on whether you have a direct train or you need to change a couple of times?
- Tokkemon 2y agoNo, it does not. The subway is practically always faster.
- yunwal 2y agoIf we're talking about driving (and parking) your own car, then for all intents and purposes, no, it doesn't matter. If you spend $800/month on 2 reserved parking spots, on top of insane car insurance, you might be able to shave 5 mins off a few trips within Manhattan compared with taking the metro, but normal people don't use personal cars in Manhattan unless they're moving heavy cargo or driving out of the city.
- AlgorithmicTime 2y ago[dead]
- JoshGG 2y agoThe key part of this comment is "I've never been to New York".