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Red teams should be legally allowed to attack companies (within certain parameters), even without the company's permission. As long as the red team attackers re
by Buttons840 2y ago
Red teams should be legally allowed to attack companies (within certain parameters), even without the company's permission. As long as the red team attackers report what they find responsibly.
I'm jaded and think our best hope is that the good guys can find the vulnerabilities before the bad guys. We can't depend on the companies to do the right thing when they have no incentive. There are no negative consequences for companies with bad security currently.
The bad guys get to attack-at-will and the good guys have to beg permission, "please Equifax, you have all my data, may I please test the effectiveness of your security for myself?" They say no, and I'll risk going to prison if I try.
I'm jaded. I think we don't do this because it would embarrass many powerful people. We might also realize many of our institutions are incapable of building secure systems, which would be a national embarrassment.
This is important though. It's no exaggeration to say this is a matter of national security.
Currently we sacrifice national security so companies can avoid being embarrassed.
- karmajunkie 2y agoi get the cynicism but all you’re talking about is legalized extortion.
- ErikBjare 2y agoWhat part of it is extortion?
- r2_pilot 2y agoPresumably the part where the red team gets its funding, or by legally mandated remediations that the company may not feel are necessary.
- Buttons840 2y agoI'm this scenario the "things the company may not feel is necessary" are good security practices and security fixes, right? I feel this is a good place to reiterate my "currently we sacrifice national security for the convenience of companies" argument.