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Cool technology and application. And yet, it feels as if all mainstream media, social and otherwise, is going to become AI-generated slop. AI-generated slop t

by cs702 2y ago

Cool technology and application. And yet, it feels as if all mainstream media, social and otherwise, is going to become AI-generated slop. AI-generated slop trained on AI-generated slop, all the way down. Sigh.

add-sub-mul-div 2y ago
You know civilization is going great when you're lamenting the loss of authentic Al Michaels content.
- cs702 2y ago
  ;-) Not exactly. I'm lamenting the loss of human-generated content, period.
  - add-sub-mul-div 2y ago
    That's the joke, one is an absurd proxy for the other.
lemoncookiechip 2y ago
This is a people problem. If it wasn't generative AI, it would be some other tech being used to cut costs, and that's the crux of the issue, it's all companies trying to cut costs while maximizing content output with little to no regard for content quality as long as it meets a certain threshold. I'm not saying AI isn't enabling it by the way, just making an observation that businesses only see the money in this, and it could be literally anything else, it just so happens to be generative voice. EDIT: Creative people can do creative things with AI, it enables a lot of people who otherwise couldn't express that creativity to do so, but it also enables the lazy and money seeking, it's tradeoff.
- krapp 2y ago
  >it's all companies trying to cut costs while maximizing content output with little to no regard for content quality as long as it meets a certain threshold. That isn't a people problem, that's a capitalism problem.
jstanley 2y ago
> AI-generated slop This is prejudice.
- cs702 2y ago
  Hah! :-) Nah, I'm not a "specieist."[a] My prejudice is only against slop... Although I don't want to see human-generated content disappear. --- [a] https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/03/technology/ai-openai-musk-page-altman.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/03/technology/ai-openai-musk...
- soco 2y ago
  Prejudice against what? Are we owing AI already human respect? And if we don't, are they gonna come after us? Or at least send their own SJW? No really, what was this comment for??? Or maybe it was sarcasm and I missed it...
  - jstanley 2y ago
    Replace "AI" in this comment with any other marginalised group and see how clever it sounds! I wasn't being sarcastic, but I wasn't really 100% serious either. I suppose I was really trying to get beneath the kneejerk "AI bad" response and provoke some thought. Obviously we don't need to afford AIs the same rights that we afford humans. (I think?). But it definitely is prejudice to assume that content will be slop just because it's generated by an AI.
    - rsynnott 2y ago
      > any other marginalised group To be clear, LLMs are not people, nor are they sentient.
- gilmore606 2y ago
  the wise man bowed his head solemnly and spoke: "there's actually zero difference between good & bad things. you imbecile. you fucking moron"
_DeadFred_ 2y ago
You aren't excited when next year: You child is taught by an AI that follows them through their development, instead of different teachers each year that expose them do different points of view. And with an AI always with them, no need to actually go to a physical school. Your exercise classes are replaced by an AI instructor (custom tailored to you, aka considers like 3 factors) removing that pesky need to leave your house or have any human interaction. Drones deliver your groceries/restaurant prepared meals removing the need to leave your house. When you do leave, you use a driverless Uber to get where you are going so need for any human contact. Man, good thing we aren't already suffering from a loneliness crisis. But hey, we'll have the AI consensus algorithms blathering the same bland most predictable responses at us using the mindset of the pre-2022 internet (forever), so if you like Wonder bread in verbal form you are going to be friggin stoked!
- soco 2y ago
  The only question I have is: how will I pay for all these services?

by cs702 2y ago

add-sub-mul-div 2y ago

You know civilization is going great when you're lamenting the loss of authentic Al Michaels content.

cs702 2y ago
;-) Not exactly. I'm lamenting the loss of human-generated content, period.
- add-sub-mul-div 2y ago
  That's the joke, one is an absurd proxy for the other.

lemoncookiechip 2y ago

This is a people problem. If it wasn't generative AI, it would be some other tech being used to cut costs, and that's the crux of the issue, it's all companies trying to cut costs while maximizing content output with little to no regard for content quality as long as it meets a certain threshold. I'm not saying AI isn't enabling it by the way, just making an observation that businesses only see the money in this, and it could be literally anything else, it just so happens to be generative voice. EDIT: Creative people can do creative things with AI, it enables a lot of people who otherwise couldn't express that creativity to do so, but it also enables the lazy and money seeking, it's tradeoff.

krapp 2y ago
>it's all companies trying to cut costs while maximizing content output with little to no regard for content quality as long as it meets a certain threshold. That isn't a people problem, that's a capitalism problem.

jstanley 2y ago

> AI-generated slop This is prejudice.

cs702 2y ago
Hah! :-) Nah, I'm not a "specieist."[a] My prejudice is only against slop... Although I don't want to see human-generated content disappear. --- [a] https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/03/technology/ai-openai-musk-page-altman.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/03/technology/ai-openai-musk...
soco 2y ago
Prejudice against what? Are we owing AI already human respect? And if we don't, are they gonna come after us? Or at least send their own SJW? No really, what was this comment for??? Or maybe it was sarcasm and I missed it...
- jstanley 2y ago
  Replace "AI" in this comment with any other marginalised group and see how clever it sounds! I wasn't being sarcastic, but I wasn't really 100% serious either. I suppose I was really trying to get beneath the kneejerk "AI bad" response and provoke some thought. Obviously we don't need to afford AIs the same rights that we afford humans. (I think?). But it definitely is prejudice to assume that content will be slop just because it's generated by an AI.
  - rsynnott 2y ago
    > any other marginalised group To be clear, LLMs are not people, nor are they sentient.
gilmore606 2y ago
the wise man bowed his head solemnly and spoke: "there's actually zero difference between good & bad things. you imbecile. you fucking moron"

_DeadFred_ 2y ago

You aren't excited when next year: You child is taught by an AI that follows them through their development, instead of different teachers each year that expose them do different points of view. And with an AI always with them, no need to actually go to a physical school. Your exercise classes are replaced by an AI instructor (custom tailored to you, aka considers like 3 factors) removing that pesky need to leave your house or have any human interaction. Drones deliver your groceries/restaurant prepared meals removing the need to leave your house. When you do leave, you use a driverless Uber to get where you are going so need for any human contact. Man, good thing we aren't already suffering from a loneliness crisis. But hey, we'll have the AI consensus algorithms blathering the same bland most predictable responses at us using the mindset of the pre-2022 internet (forever), so if you like Wonder bread in verbal form you are going to be friggin stoked!

soco 2y ago
The only question I have is: how will I pay for all these services?