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Moaan InkPalm Plus is weird, cheap, small, and my kind of e-reader
- laweijfmvo 2y agoAfter using the cheapest e-Reader for over a decade (Kindle 2 until support ended, Kindle 3 until the same) I finally upgraded to the top Oasis and love it. Things that are absolutely essential IMO are - physical page turn buttons. the touch screens are finicky, inconvenient for one-hand use, and impossible if i want to keep my hand up a blanket or something - back/front light, with adjustable color temp, and an actual dim setting that doesn't blow your retinas out everything i don't care about. but these are must haves.
- TeaBrain 2y agoThe physical page turn buttons are why I got an Oasis also. I find the experience much better than having to touch the screen to turn the page. With the physical buttons, it's easy enough to move the page forward or backward while holding the device with one hand, while requiring very little hand shifting, which I appreciate.
- atlasunshrugged 2y agoHow is the weight for the Oasis in one hand?
- eigenvalue 2y agoVery reasonable and comfortable.
- tarentel 2y agoIt's tapered on one side so when held it is really easy to use one handed. I had a magnetic case on mine for when I put it in a bag that could be taken off/put back on easily too so you could still hold it.
- squigz 2y agoAnnoyingly, the original Kindle had physical buttons, then they removed it in later versions, and I often find myself turning the page accidentally.
- LegitShady 2y agoi need to replace the battery in my kindle keyboard ("3rd generation") so I can use it again, or surrender and order a replacement. I'm using a kobo right now but I don't like it. I was looking at the oasis but its expensive, and still uses microusb
- benoliver999 2y agoI had a Kindle with a full keyboard!
- jzb 2y agoThat thing was a beast. I used it for a few years, then handed it down to my dad’s new wife - she was a big reader, and used it for almost a decade until it gave up the ghost.
- 1oooqooq 2y agokindleDX. still struggling with it and the original battery. I think the only feature it is missing (besides non-stupid amazon software) is any sort of backlight.
- TeaBrain 2y agoI had the first model of kindle without a keyboard prior to getting an oasis. When it broke, the oasis was really the only choice to replace it due to them removing the physical buttons on all the other models.
- toast0 2y agoDid they really end support for the older Kindles? I haven't used mine in a while, but I thought they could still sync and get books over wifi. No lights on the Kindle Keyboard though, and the 3g modems won't work anymore for obvious reasons.
- kjs3 2y agoI have an oooold Kindle keyboard model. As you said, cellular doesn't work, but it syncs fine over wifi. Seems to be holding a charge for less time, tho, so maybe it does have an 'end date'.
- causi 2y agoIt's very easy to replace the battery with a new one. The whole back cover pops off.
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- rebuilder 2y agoI have an 11-year old Kindle and while it can’t access the store any more, it can still sync over wifi if I purchase books on the web.
- mtalantikite 2y agoI got a Boox Go that just came a few days ago and I really like the physical page turn buttons. It's my first e-Reader, so I don't have much to compare it to, but I can imagine relying on the touch screen to be annoying.
- manchmalscott 2y agoI just got a Kobo Clara Color over their cheaper models largely for the page turn buttons (and being able to highlight in multiple colors of course). Combined with how shockingly light it is (lighter than my phone), one handed reading is excellent.
- wccrawford 2y agoI love my Clara Color so much. It's light, fast, and it has buttons. And it's just about exactly the right size. My one complaint so far is that the battery seems to need a charge every few days. Definitely less than a week, I think. I can live with that.
- zachmu 2y agoThat's good to know, that's a total deal breaker for me. I have the Libra 2 and I get about a month from a charge with my normal reading habits.
- zachmu 2y agoLooks like the Clara Color doesn't have physical buttons? https://us.kobobooks.com/collections/ereaders/products/kobo-clara-colour https://us.kobobooks.com/collections/ereaders/products/kobo-... Kobo changes their lineup constantly though, the Libra 2 I have (with physical buttons) is no longer available.
- manchmalscott 2y agoOops, I definitely meant Libra. I need to stop looking at other words when I’m typing lol.
- deafpolygon 2y agoThat's because they have the Libra Colour now: https://us.kobobooks.com/products/kobo-libra-colour https://us.kobobooks.com/products/kobo-libra-colour
- adolph 2y agoI don't know about the necessity of physical page turn buttons. I've had a paperwhite and now a scribe and the touch is fine. An advantage of touch is that it supports sideways orientation, which I use on the paperwhite to increase the page width.
- causi 2y agoIf you haven't had a kindle with buttons you have no basis of comparison. They're lovely.
- Tagbert 2y agoI used to have one of the older ones with buttons. now I have a recent Paperwhite and don't really miss them. I just tap on the screen edge and it works fine. I can understand the appeal of buttons and am glad that you have a reader with them but it's not something that motivates me.
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- adolph 2y agoI’m sure the buttons are of the finest sort. That doesn’t invalidate a subjective eval that touch is fine for this context and an objective conjecture that physical buttons would lose orientation if orientation were changed 90°.
- causi 2y agoI don't see why you think physical buttons would lose orientation. My kindle had forward and back buttons on both sides that worked fine in either orientation, and on devices that only have one button per side the one on the bottom is next and the one on top is previous.
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- jcul 2y agoI'm surprised people value physical page turn buttons so much. I've had a kobo Clara HD for years now, running KOReader (one of my most loved pieces of software). I can turn the page one handed by just curling a finger around from behind and tapping the screen, or by touching the reader to my nose :) I tend to read a lot in a situation where I can only use one hand!
- mrgoldenbrown 2y agoI'm the opposite, I don't understand the steady march towards fewer buttons. I miss my iPod wheel that I could operate without looking. My screen would be covered in sunblock, sweat and oils if I used my nose to swipe.
- normie3000 2y ago> I could operate without looking Possibly not a common use case for e-readers.
- WolfeReader 2y agoYou're basically right, but some e-readers have support for audiobooks and music. Physical buttons would be a benefit for those uses.
- fuzztester 2y ago>, I don't understand the steady march towards fewer buttons cost cutting by the manufacturers, probably. seen the trend even in laptops over the last decade or two - the parts are getting thinner and lighter.
- toast0 2y agoHaving real buttons means never needing to have my hand obscure the screen. And not touching the screen means not having to clean it as often either.
- mmcclure 2y agoMy partner makes fun of me for always turning the page with my nose and it makes me very happy to hear I’m not alone. I use the physical buttons if I’m reading on a plane or otherwise sitting down, but I much prefer holding the kindle from the back if I’m reading lying down. I assumed that must be rare given how little attention any of the e-reader form factors have given to it.
- criddell 2y agoI also bought it for the physical buttons. Unfortunately, it doesn’t seem like there’s anyway to entirely disable the touch screen while reading (or at least I haven’t figured it out). My only complaint is that it isn’t USB-C. As soon as that comes out, I’ll trade this one in. I just looked on Amazon and the Oasis is out of stock. I wonder if that means a refresh is imminent? Edit: I googled it and it seems the reverse might be true - the Oasis is out of the lineup and no replacement is coming. That sucks. https://goodereader.com/blog/kindle/goodbye-to-the-amazon-kindle-oasis https://goodereader.com/blog/kindle/goodbye-to-the-amazon-ki...
- eigenvalue 2y agoAgree that the Oasis is awesome and worth the money. It’s also water resistant, so I can use it in the sauna/steamroom (my favorite place to read without distractions nowadays!)
- zachmu 2y agoThe Oasis is a great device with one fatal flaw: battery life. For some reason they nerfed the battery relative to the paperwhite so it lasts about a week instead of about a month. Probably won't bother a lot of people but it really bothered me. I read a lot and hate having to think about recharging. I ended up with the Kobo Libra 2, which has all the same features as the Oasis but also has a month-long battery. I love it overall, great little device. Includes some quality of life features beyond the Oasis, including auto color tone shifting of the front-light in the evening (cool to warm), being able to adjust the light by swiping up the left side of the screen, and more options for progress indicators / headers and footers than the kindle has. Kobo changes their lineup constantly, which means the Libra 2 has been replaced with a more expensive color version I haven't tried. Color on an e-ink screen is not an interesting feature to me, esp. not when it makes the device more expensive.
- rf15 2y agoMy suspicion is that the reason the battery is so abysmal is because you cannot turn off the backlight entirely. Indefencible design decision that just eats your battery. (older readers were better because they basically only used power to change the current page - now we made them so featureful they lost many of the advantages older models had)
- dbuxton 2y agoOn mine you definitely can make it so that there is no discernable backlight even in pitch darkness. Whether somehow it's still consuming energy I don't know. However I agree that generally the Oasis battery life leaves something to be desired.
- hex4def6 2y agoI haven't kept up with ereader stuff for many years since I worked on battery life models for kindles, but I will say that keeping your e-reader in airplane mode will increase the battery life significantly. The reason is that WiFi has a DTIM which basically means that requires periodic wakeups to keep associated with the AP. This burns power.
- deafpolygon 2y agoI have the Libra 2. I cannot understate how much of a difference physical page buttons made for me. My SO has the Clara 2HD (or something) and I couldn't get into it... turns out I need that chin for easy holding and button for flipping the page. The light settings are great- comes on when it's actually dark and goes away when there's plenty of light.
- smeej 2y agoI got one of those cheap Bluetooth "camera lens" clicker buttons that pairs with my Boox, an Android tablet. Works great to turn my pages in KOreader from as far away as I can see the device. Since so many tablets are being made with some flavor of Android under the hood, this might open up more options for you and anybody else who wants physical buttons! This way I can even stand the device up against something and put my hands wherever I want!
- bigboy12 2y agoWhy would I want to carry around another device.
- WolfeReader 2y agoAn e-reader will reinvigorate your reading habit, and give you something to do any time you have a spare few seconds or minutes. I carry an e-reader everywhere (I have big pockets) and have never regretted it.
- devindotcom 2y agoI have a Palma (they sent for review) and I think it's great, though I agree it probably isn't worth the price for most. https://techcrunch.com/2023/11/03/boox-ereaders-poke-5-palma-page-review/ https://techcrunch.com/2023/11/03/boox-ereaders-poke-5-palma... But the text looks good, the light is nice, and you can even install apps that aren't too demanding - a crossword or something. I've found that even a Clara HD or BW (the latest version) can be a bit bulky when you're going out with no bag, but the Palma fits in any jeans or jacket pocket and is excellent to have when you find yourself with 20 minutes to wait and no desire to doomscroll. I hope these things get more popular and accessible.
- arp242 2y agoThe narrow screen seems very, well, narrow... I haven't used it though, so maybe it's not as bad as it seems. I do like larger-ish text. I have a 6" PocketBook, and it fits in all my trouser pockets, although I do agree it's slightly large overall it's not too bad.
- packetlost 2y agoI have both a Kindle Oasis and Palma and I like the Palma much more for when I'm laying in bed. It's lighter and easier to one-hand, but most importantly is it's easy to hold while laying on my side. The narrower screen isn't too bad if you're mostly reading EPUBs or AZW3 files where they reflow text appropriately. I have it set up to use the volume rocker for changing pages. The included case makes the buttons a little... mushy for my taste, but I've otherwise been largely impressed. The fact that it runs Android means I can install an IETF RFC app and Instapaper and sync easily, which has been a surprisingly huge plus for me as well.
- devindotcom 2y agoIt took a little getting used to - i had the same qualm. But honestly, I don't mind now at all. The text adjustment is very fine in the default reader and the resolution is high, so pick a font you find readable and it's really not so different from a pocket paperback page.
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- tracker1 2y agoLeading into OT... but does anyone have suggestions for the opposite of this. I would like a large eReader, where the text for say a paperback can be scaled to 8.5x11" size, or similarly reading a technical book at equivalent to print size.
- siliconpotato 2y agoAren't you essentially describing a kindle scribe?
- tracker1 2y agoThank you, for the price that's pretty close.
- abound 2y agoI use the Boox Max Lumi for this, it's a 13.3" eInk Android tablet, great for writing + for reading/marking/signing PDFs.
- Swizec 2y agoI've enjoyed my reMarkable for reading on a large e-ink screen. Scribbling your notes right on the page is a great UX when reading papers. But unlike a Kindle, it really needs to rest in your lap or be propped up against something. It starts to feel surprisingly heavy in your hands after a few minutes. Probably more from the torque on your fingers than the weight itself.
- pklausler 2y agoWorse, no backlight on the rM2.
- mkmk 2y agoI wonder if you could find an old Kindle DX on ebay or something.
- whichfawkes 2y agoSeconding the Onyx Box Max Lumi here. I bought one back when they were much more expensive and I still think it's been worth it.
- Finnucane 2y agoLooking at that picture of the narrow column of text with so many very badly spaced lines of two or three words each firstly gives me flashback of my days in newspaper production and secondly makes me hope it has a landscape view option. Making the type smaller might help, but there's a reason most books don't look like that.
- iamjackg 2y agoIt does. I have a Pro, not Plus, which I believe has a slightly wider aspect ratio. I was worried I was gonna find the typesetting unbearable for the reasons you mentioned but it's surprisingly okay, especially with smaller font sizes.
- jrmg 2y agoGood hyphenation and TeX-like paragraph-level justification (tries to balance whitespace throughout a paragraph rather than just filling each line up with as much as possible and breaking when a word overflows) would do a lot to fix that. The lack of these is most noticeable when text is in narrower columns. But even with larger e-readers it is, IMO, responsible for a lot of the “this still feels less readable than a book for some reason” vibe that ebooks (and lots of self-published paper books) still have. I really lament that in the switch to electronic text we seem to have forgotten what were thought of as basic requirements for readability in paper-based publication.
- skydhash 2y agoThe first things I disable are justified text and hyphenation. And for some books, I disable the embedded styles when I'm reading (koreader). Some books markups are really bad so I don't have much hope for automated typesetting.
- jerojero 2y agoI have both a mooan inkpalm 5 and a boox palma and you can get books look much better in both. He is using a font size that's a bit too big. And there's too much spacing, you can configure all aspects. I get about 8-10 characters on these devices, the font isn't too small and the spacing is fine. With my settings I get about 70% of a book's actual page (I use the same book to compare) which is a fair compromise imo. It's fast to read shorter lines anyway because there's less horizontal travel distance. I actually think this aspect ratio is pretty great for reading. I also have a Kobo Clara 2E which has been relegated to just reading by the pool/bath/beach. Also, these devices are pretty good for manga reading if you're into that.
- nottorp 2y agoHmm does the OP read so much on the go? When I'm out I'll make do with my phone. When I'm home I'd rather use something larger.
- mattl 2y agoI read a lot on public transport. I’ve started using my Kindle again as it’s bigger than my phone and much nicer to read on.
- qwerty456127 2y agoHow do you handle motion sickness? It hits hard almost every time I try to read in a bus, a tram or a car.
- Clamchop 2y agoNot everyone experiences motion sickness, or to the same degree. I don't think there's much you can do if you're one of the unlucky ones. On the bright side, you're less likely to die of poisoning!
- aidenn0 2y agoIf you can prop an arm up, many people have less motion sickness if they aren't looking down.
- skydhash 2y agoSame as you. The rare times I have to ride something, I go the audiobooks route.
- siliconpotato 2y agoThat affects most people but trains tend to be different, especially if you are facing forwards.
- nottorp 2y agoSame here, I can't read in a moving small car but I can read just fine in a train or a plane. Haven't tried reading in buses or trams.
- iamjackg 2y agoEver since I stopped having a public transit commute to work, I have basically stopped reading. I have a Kobo Libra H2O but have been struggling to make it part of my daily routine. It sits on my nightstand, but I often end up staying up late and only going to bed when it's time to sleep. One thing I do do a lot of, though, is waste time browsing Lemmy/Twitter on my phone, because I always have it in my pocket. I bought a Moaan InkPalm Pro in the hopes of replacing the habit with book reading, and it definitely worked. It's so light that I just keep it in my pocket together with my phone, and whenever I feel like filling up some downtime I pull that out instead of my phone. The battery lasts 1 week+, it has customizable warm/cool front lighting, it can run all Android ebook reading apps (so I can read all my Kindle/Kobo purchases), and it can always be on me. It's the happiest I've been with an ebook reader since I got my first Kindle back in 2009.
- kjs3 2y agoI read books on my phone, because it's always in my pocket. Just open the e-reader app instead of twitter.
- card_zero 2y agoYou can also buy a book made of paper and carry it around in a bag, but that would be inconceivable. Anyway I don't get the guilt about not reading books. Lately I've been reading Edgar Wallace, and before that, Raymond Chandler, in editions printed in the 1950s and 1980s respectively, but these are still unmitigated trash, because they're pulp thrillers designed to titillate. I should feel guilty for not looking at social media.
- kjs3 2y agoI didn't say a real book isn't an option (tho my phone is smaller, lighter and carries more than one book...YMMV). But don't let me stop you from grinding your little axe to a fine edge.
- dsr_ 2y agoI read books on my phone, and also on a couple of cheap Android tablets -- one hangs out on a stand over my bed, and the other floats around the house. They're all sync'ed by KOreader, which is nice.
- davedx 2y agoI owned ereaders for a while (had the first Kindle) but I ended up going back to my phone for reading books in the end. One device, less charging, less things to remember. The Kobo app works great now it’s matured, and everything is super snappy and responsive.
- delecti 2y agoYeah, in practice I only use my Kindle when I've set aside a day to read an anticipated book at release. The convenience of a phone is hard to beat.
- devilbunny 2y agoIn parallel, I read most of the time on my iPad... but my wife and I both keep our old Kindle Keyboards for reading outdoors in natural light (beach/pool). They're far easier to read in that setting. The model is almost 14 years old now (the actual devices are probably about 12-13), but since battery life is really a secondary consideration for our usage (we can charge every night), I haven't bothered replacing the battery in either one. Store doesn't work anymore, but we always take a laptop on trips anyway, so USB sideloading is a fairly minor hassle (esp with Calibre and DeDRM Tools).
- davedx 2y agoYeah for sure. Even with my phone's brightness on max, in bright sunlight ereaders are much better. That's probably always going to be the case I guess.
- hyperman1 2y agoMy mental reaction is somehow different for the 2 devices. Android devices are for quick, mindless usage. My ebook is for longer, full concentration reading. I remember more reading something on my inkpad color 3 than the same thing on my phone or tablet.
- davedx 2y agoIt took a bit of mental training to stop switching to browser/chat apps while reading, but I have most notifications disabled so it was more a "me deciding that now I'm going to just read" than a device/software thing. I do still switch or get distracted occasionally but generally now when I've decided I'm going to just read my book, that's what I'll do.
- fumar 2y agoI daily the InkPalm for reading. It replaced my Kindle given its pocketable size. I still run the Kindle app on it and it works well without page turn animation. I am curious to see new eink development when the eink pattern expires.
- ramses0 2y agoRandom e-reader tip: stick some sort of pop-socket thing on the back of the reader so that it "grips your hand" while reading. Then you don't have to "hold" the book/kindle, you just place/maneuver it. See "love handle" for something similar / in the ballpark (phone elastic strap), as I don't remember the actual brand that I ended up buying. Everybody thinks of using them for their phones, but I've rarely seen them suggested/used for e-readers where I think they make a ton on sense! ...back on topic: $95 for an e-ink android thingy? Have I found the proper device for junky home assistant dashboards / control panels? Still it'd be great to figure out mounting, magnetic charging, or direct-wire power, as if you were thinking of a detachable replacement for alarm-system pads, managing device battery can be a real hassle for long-term (years) usage.
- squigz 2y agoThat's a great idea, thanks!
- kayodelycaon 2y agoI always have a case on mine and I hold the cover between my index and middle fingers with my thumb on top of the reader.
- sshb 2y agoPostponing any of my e-reader purchases until the Daylight Computer tech would reshape the market https://daylightcomputer.com/ https://daylightcomputer.com/
- rty32 2y ago$729? Well, I don't think I am rich enough to throw my money at that...
- chimineycricket 2y agoSame, no blue light or eyestrain is a plus. I agree with the other child comment though, the price is too steep for now. FPS and it being Android and therefore extendable is great. I want one.
- layer8 2y agoOnly 190 DPI, and contrast and viewing angles are quite bad: https://youtu.be/iHeIw9rXzUQ?t=570 https://youtu.be/iHeIw9rXzUQ?t=570
- msephton 2y agoWow. Not a great look. Thanks for sharing
- infotainment 2y agoEh, for all their bluster there’s nothing exceedingly groundbreaking about Daylight’s tech; it’s just using a bog-standard transflective LCD. By their logic, my Casio digital watch is “e-paper”.
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- philips 2y agoI keep this reader in my small bag that I use daily. I use it at the park at the kids and at bedtime. It is a great device with a bit of tweaking. And I have a GitHub repo over here about it. https://github.com/philips/inkpalm-5-adb-english https://github.com/philips/inkpalm-5-adb-english
- djfergus 2y agoI have one too, great device for the price, the review is spot on. Thanks for your repo, good info, starred. The link [1] to rooting is fascinating and frustrating: a reminder that most Android is still far from open. A smart Chinese manufacturer should make one of these with completely open bootloader and full source: Watch what the enthusiasts do with it then steal those ideas for v2. [1] https://github.com/qwerty12/inkPalm-5-EPD105-root https://github.com/qwerty12/inkPalm-5-EPD105-root
- hboon 2y agoThere's a little typo in the repo description: "Xioami"
- tra3 2y agoDo these devices have a gps chip? Would be super handy as a backup nav device.
- philips 2y agoThey do not. I wish they did!
- ISL 2y agoI'm looking forward very much to the day a manufacturer begins selling eink handsets and tablets with up-to-date OS/security (Android 14 in this context), GPL compliance, and telemetry compliant with US law/privacy concerns. The Boox devices get a lot of things right, including the Palma. I wound up with a reMarkable due to the above concerns, but it feels like we are on the cusp of seeing tentative eink products from Google or Apple.
- andai 2y agoAny decade now...
- Vrondi 2y agoThis is why I really wish Samsung did Android ereaders.
- sleepycatgirl 2y agoYeaahhh... that would be really nice. I myself... kinda just gave up, and grabbed A9, and flashed LineageOS... It isn't perfect, but at the moment, the best I could get...
- paulcole 2y agoThis thing sounds like an absolutely massive piece of shit. Chinese characters, glossy screen, slow refresh, and on and on and on. Good thing it was cheap!
- msephton 2y ago~5 words per line would drive me insane.
- t0bia_s 2y agoYou can adjust font size for more words per line. I actually have quite a big gaps between left and right border on my 10.3 ereader to have reading more comfortable.
- msephton 2y agoTiny text would also drive me insane. I'll stick with my current reader that has a more book-like aspect ratio.
- monksy 2y agoI got the meebook m6 and I love it. Stripped down Android os installed, I can bring on kormega? reader, and eink.
- calmbonsai 2y agoSrsly, just buy a 4th gen Kindle on Ebay. They're around $70 USD un-opened/new and around $35 USD used atm, have physical buttons, and are lighter/thinner than later-gen Kindles. Hell, they're even lighter with the added weight of a cheap clip-on book-light than later-gen Kindles. Bonus, since they're so old, they no longer use the ad network so no ads, but you can still buy and download from the Amazon marketplace or upload your own e-books.
- kbar13 2y agoi got a hisense hi reader pro and it's nearly good enough to be an e-ink android phone. as a reader, it's near perfect - pocket sized while having a good aspect ratio for reading. battery lasts for a week.
- sleepycatgirl 2y agoYup. Reader Pro/A9, very much comfy devices. Love them, especially with LineageOS lol
- gnicholas 2y agoI like the form factor (I'm also an iPhone mini fan), but I don't like the way it makes the justified text look. There are so few words per line that you either end up with big gaps between words (justified) or a very ragged right edge (left-aligned). This would be less of an issue if the text were sized down, but it's a necessary consequence of having a narrow screen.
- 4ggr0 2y agoanyone else using a PocketBook Verse? mainly wondering if others have done interesting things except for using it as an eReader.
- chungus 2y agothis post made me go down a rabbit hole trying to find where I can buy this it seems the only place is AliExpress. The alternative seems to be the boox Palma but it's 300 bucks compared to 100. I'm currently using the 13 inch boox lumi or something. Happy daily user for 6 years. Kind of want a pocket device though
- rpgbr 2y agoLine length is too short for a comfortable reading. Author may haven’t noticed, but he will feel this issue pretty quickly.
- wraptile 2y agoThis trend of phone shaped e-readers is just so redundant. Phones already have amazing screens that are perfect for reading despite not being e-ink. The only argument people make is that you separate your reading from your phoning and it's a weak take that feels like a capitalistic trend to just justify buying more gadgets.
- infotainment 2y agoI agree with you that phone shaped eReaders (like this or the Palma) make no sense, but for a different reason: I think eInk screens are vastly superior to LCD and want my phone to have one. Not putting a cellular radio on a phone shaped eReader completely defeats the purpose IMO.
- wraptile 2y agoMost people have led screens tho and e-ink superiority over high res led is arguable at best.
- WolfeReader 2y agohttps://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20230313005152/en/Harvard-Study-Shows-E-Ink%E2%80%99s-ePaper-Is-Up-to-Three-Times-Healthier-for-Your-Eyes-Than-LCD-Screens https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20230313005152/en/Har...
- wraptile 2y agoSo they found that it's slightly better than simply limiting blue light which every phone already has an option for.
- sleepycatgirl 2y agoNah, phones don't have that good of screens for reading. They are decent, yes, but not great. That's why I went with phone with e-ink screens, works wonders.
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- 627467 2y agoI definitely get the emergence of eink on phone form factor for various activities but... as a dedicated ereader? the tall form factor just feels a horrible for long read ergonomics.
- donatj 2y agoAs someone with a lot of trouble tracking long lines with his eyes, this seems like the ideal form factor for reading.
- fuzztester 2y agowhat is a good light device for taking notes about programming projects while on the go?
- keheliya 2y agoI wonder if anyone is running einkbro (https://github.com/plateaukao/einkbro https://github.com/plateaukao/einkbro) on this thing. Scrolling long-form web content in slow-refreshing eInk displays is jarring. I wish the browsers in other non-android readers like Kindle Scribe had the option to map pageUp/pageDown behaviour to a button or a page flip gesture similar to einkbro or maybe there's a way to overlay a button to do this on any web content somehow?
- tr4656 2y agoI am on a Hisense A7cc. I think it's actually a much better experience than using traditional Chrome/Firefox, especially with scrolling as you say.
- sleepycatgirl 2y agoI personally have Hisense A9, with LineageOS 21, and man, it is just the most comfy device I have had. Let's see.. Reading is absolutely top tier with KOReader + volume buttons as page turning. Being able to play idle games like Kittens Game, also extremely pleasant. Maps outside? Amazing. As a phone, in Europe at least? Also works. Battery life, is pretty comfy, when I mainly read. And, the specs are decent. 4/6/8GB, 128GB/256GB ROM RAM options (personally I had gone with 6/128 option, because 8/256 was a bit too expensive) The only minor flaws... well, the camera is not the greatest... (My old OnePlus 6 makes much better photos, as I keep it as backup device, just in case. And for e.g youtube or color content on the go. Just... things that A9 is not exactly the way to go with.) And just lack of microSD card slot. And on side note, I just adore how simple, and elegant the design on the phone itself is. It just... is. Quiet, simple, unlike most of the modern phones with their.. loud... everything, like notches, too many cameras and such. (Note, its just opinion, just because they have such designs, that doesn't meant they are bad. For others that can be a gooood thing.) (I also like Sony's phones designs, they cute) And in general.. I just love e-ink. Truly blessed technology, as a user.
- HanShotFirst 2y agoWith root and installing LineageOS, do you feel confident that any stock malware/spyware is eradicated? Or do you feel that the risk, or whatever may be left over, is worth it for the benefits?
- sleepycatgirl 2y agoAh, I run lineageOS without root. Well, while, I have yet to see if it still does any outgoing... malicious connections, it is certainly safer than stock rom with massive amount of bloatware, and all.. the built in things..., and the version itself, being quite outdated. And to be fair, this is good enough for me. If I worry about such built in firmware every time I get a device, well, my hair would be gray by the time I hit 30s lol. As for benefits, I mean, in the end, this is what I wanted. An e-ink phone, with a proper, normal ROM. And because LineageOS is cute.
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- tiltowait 2y agoAs a general rule, I don’t like small eReaders (for which my primary experience is my phone). I find I read much less when using them, because the act of turning a page tricks my brain into thinking I’ve made more progress than I have. Consequently, it makes even short reading sessions feel like a chore. That said, I think I would love this thing for one very specific use case: backpacking! Space is always at a premium, and I’ve long lamented the Kobo Mini never got a frontlit model.
- sleepycatgirl 2y agoAh, very much valid. Here it is a bit different. Small screen, so, if I am not feeling well, it is much easier to read just a page or two, and go: Yeah, thats something. Which... while, on its own is not a lot, but... it really helps with keeping up the habit. (Because, alongside english, I also read in Japanese, and there, reading just one page, takes 4-5 minutes. So yeah, habit-keeping is important for me there)
- seam_carver 2y agoThe TLDR of these kinds of devices: great for reading/text, terrible for video and scrolling. Love mine, here's a video of me using a similar device with lots of common android apps: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvO9ScTdwz8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvO9ScTdwz8
- maxglute 2y agoI'd like a see clamsell foldable with eink inside and a small oled screen outside as camera view finder and occasional video watching. Or bring back Yota phone.
- WolfeReader 2y agoI'm so vain, I'd want the outside OLED screen to show the cover of the book I'm reading so everyone can see it. (Or the cover of some book anyway. Let people think I'm reading Foucault while I'm actually binging Star Trek novels.)