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If wanting to reduce menial tasks in my life is classist, then sign me up.

XorNot 2y ago
You're on a website of software developers. Our entire job description is to eliminate white collar work. Not a lot of secretaries and typists anymore. Less and less classic sysadmins as well.
- daseiner1 2y ago
  Not entirely clear to me how that’s relevant. I merely disagree with valorization of menial work and the people who do it.
  - roenxi 2y ago
    > I merely disagree with valorization of menial work and the people who do it. With you all the way on wiping out menial work; if we can automate it away that is a win for all of us. But do be careful when talking about the people who do it - they're generally wonderful and making very real and measurable contributions to the wellbeing of everyone else. They deserve a bit of valorization. Not saints, but but certainly up there on the scale of people putting in a good effort.
shrimp_emoji 2y ago
Girl, same. I am never going to the grocery store again. Thank god for the economic underclass willing to do delivery. They're like the plankton of the economic ecosystem. Without them, it all falls apart. Sad but necessary. But, as karma, delivery will eventually be the only job left for all of us, until we get deep enough into Moravec's paradox for that to eventually be automated too.
- metadat 2y ago
  Moravec's Paradox: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moravec%27s_paradox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moravec%27s_paradox
- ElFitz 2y ago
  > delivery will eventually be the only job left for all of us Reminds me of Death Stranding, aka "FedEx Simulator". The game also mentioned the topic of automation a few times.
yellowapple 2y ago
I'm pretty sure the point is that the exact sort of "art" companies are using AI to create is included in the "menial tasks" category, and that we're therefore better off letting AI take over said menial tasks so that we can spend time on actual creative endeavors rather than soul-crushing corporate drudgery like (in the article author's case) press releases.

You're on a website of software developers. Our entire job description is to eliminate white collar work. Not a lot of secretaries and typists anymore. Less and less classic sysadmins as well.

daseiner1 2y ago
Not entirely clear to me how that’s relevant. I merely disagree with valorization of menial work and the people who do it.
- roenxi 2y ago
  > I merely disagree with valorization of menial work and the people who do it. With you all the way on wiping out menial work; if we can automate it away that is a win for all of us. But do be careful when talking about the people who do it - they're generally wonderful and making very real and measurable contributions to the wellbeing of everyone else. They deserve a bit of valorization. Not saints, but but certainly up there on the scale of people putting in a good effort.

shrimp_emoji 2y ago

Girl, same. I am never going to the grocery store again. Thank god for the economic underclass willing to do delivery. They're like the plankton of the economic ecosystem. Without them, it all falls apart. Sad but necessary. But, as karma, delivery will eventually be the only job left for all of us, until we get deep enough into Moravec's paradox for that to eventually be automated too.

metadat 2y ago
Moravec's Paradox: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moravec%27s_paradox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moravec%27s_paradox
ElFitz 2y ago
> delivery will eventually be the only job left for all of us Reminds me of Death Stranding, aka "FedEx Simulator". The game also mentioned the topic of automation a few times.

yellowapple 2y ago

I'm pretty sure the point is that the exact sort of "art" companies are using AI to create is included in the "menial tasks" category, and that we're therefore better off letting AI take over said menial tasks so that we can spend time on actual creative endeavors rather than soul-crushing corporate drudgery like (in the article author's case) press releases.