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I would say couch potato. a body at rest tends to stay at rest, and a body in motion tends to stay in motion, so I think someone already working is more likely

by rnewme 2y ago

I would say couch potato. a body at rest tends to stay at rest, and a body in motion tends to stay in motion, so I think someone already working is more likely to change jobs, put pressure on the employer etc. Couch potato IMHO is much less likely over time to change his situation, let alone join union, be part of some change etc.

Sayrus 2y ago
There is also the in-between where these benefits allow you to quit and then look for another job. Something that can be hard to do if you are working long hours as you'd need to take days off that may or may not be approved depending on the company you are working for.
- rnewme 2y ago
  Exactly, I think that situation should be better handled and would make the playfield much more level.
anonzzzies 2y ago
People who sit at home doing nothing tend to get very depressed and ‘self medicate’ (drink, smoke, eat, etc) to fight that depression. I like to believe that most people really don’t want to get to that point and the reason they quit is not to basically slow-suicide. I don’t know about the numbers, but as I saw in my life, most people want to keep busy as they don’t know what to do with themselves. Sure there are exceptions and it might be different per country; would be interesting to see stats if there are any.
- rnewme 2y ago
  Yeah, that's why I said, with hesitation, that it's worse to be couch potato, than doing a perhaps pointless job. At least something is taking up part of your day and you're putting in the effort. I experienced it myself, I saw it in people around me, of you're out of the workforce for a long time you will have very thought time going back. And if you're in bad place financially, mentally, or both, you will absolutely sink sitting at home...
- charlie0 2y ago
  It's all terrible working conditions and awful bosses until you have too much free time and have to start contemplating the meaning of your own life. Then you REALLY have hard work to do or succumb to the impending nihilism.
AndrewKemendo 2y ago
You seem to be assuming that action is beneficial when in fact, that is the polar opposite. Only anxieties cause toil - somebody who is at peace and relaxed, is going to rest and play just like children do when their basic food and care needs are met (possible to do with existing worldwide resources) If everybody sat around doing “nothing”, we would be better off than we are with everybody out there trying to make their own little mini dictatorship, which is what the current state of the world mentality for success is Your mentality is why the world is so terrible
- rnewme 2y ago
  How is action not beneficial? It's about what you have your focus on. If you're in 2 week long binge watching session of latest Netflix show, you won't be grinding leetcode. I agree, and for someone who is on couch watching TV whole day every day, thought of stopping that and finding new soul sucking job is bound to cause more anexity, than for the person replacing one trash job with the other... I agree it would be better doing nothing than doing wrong things, but you can't have progress without actually doing something. And if you're doing something you will also do mistakes. I absolutely do not approve greedy employees and people leaving their best life years for someone's latest BMW, but I also understand that it is inevitable there will be players like that in the market. What we need to do is keep going - acquire wealth we need for our day to day life and family, secure our future, both financially, but also through activism in form of rights and benefits for working class. You seem to deduce quite a lot about me from a comment that you read and understood in light of your own frustration.
- rnewme 2y ago
  I just consider it lesser of two evils, never said it's better or should be that way ¯\_(:/)_/¯
digging 2y ago
> a body at rest tends to stay at rest, and a body in motion tends to stay in motion This is not a description of human behavior, but of inanimate objects in Newtonian physics. I'm sure we could find a way to make a description of stellar evolution sound applicable here too, but that doesn't make it so. > someone already working is more likely to change jobs, put pressure on the employer etc Have you met anyone who works? Shit's exhausting. Almost everyone I know would be likely to seek a more fulfilling/satisfying/enjoyable job if they could quit their current job and survive with unemployment as a stopgap.
- rnewme 2y ago
  > This is not a description of human behavior, but of inanimate objects in Newtonian physics. I'm sure we could find a way to make a description of stellar evolution sound applicable here too, but that doesn't make it so. It was always easier for me, and all friends I know, to change jobs and upgrade while you're already in the workforce. After university, layoffs, sabaticals, even long vacations, it's kinda hard to get back "into it". > Have you met anyone who works? Shit's exhausting. Almost everyone I know would be likely to seek a more fulfilling/satisfying/enjoyable job if they could quit their current job and survive with unemployment as a stopgap. Yea but question was couch potato vs underpaid worker, not a temporarily unemployed person. Definition of couch potato in popular culture is a lazy person that watches TV, not concerned with much. I know more people who lived on CC between jobs, but still moved to new positions, than couch potatoes who got an actual job after that.
  - digging 2y ago
    > Yea but question was couch potato vs underpaid worker, not a temporarily unemployed person. Definition of couch potato in popular culture is a lazy person that watches TV, not concerned with much. I know more people who lived on CC between jobs, but still moved to new positions, than couch potatoes who got an actual job after that. I don't understand your disagreement with what I said, while simultaneously agreeing with the other comment: > There is also the in-between where these benefits allow you to quit and then look for another job. Something that can be hard to do if you are working long hours as you'd need to take days off that may or may not be approved depending on the company you are working for. We're saying the same thing, I think. Only I'm not concerned with the supposed existence of "couch potatoes."

by rnewme 2y ago

Sayrus 2y ago

There is also the in-between where these benefits allow you to quit and then look for another job. Something that can be hard to do if you are working long hours as you'd need to take days off that may or may not be approved depending on the company you are working for.

rnewme 2y ago
Exactly, I think that situation should be better handled and would make the playfield much more level.

anonzzzies 2y ago

People who sit at home doing nothing tend to get very depressed and ‘self medicate’ (drink, smoke, eat, etc) to fight that depression. I like to believe that most people really don’t want to get to that point and the reason they quit is not to basically slow-suicide. I don’t know about the numbers, but as I saw in my life, most people want to keep busy as they don’t know what to do with themselves. Sure there are exceptions and it might be different per country; would be interesting to see stats if there are any.

rnewme 2y ago
Yeah, that's why I said, with hesitation, that it's worse to be couch potato, than doing a perhaps pointless job. At least something is taking up part of your day and you're putting in the effort. I experienced it myself, I saw it in people around me, of you're out of the workforce for a long time you will have very thought time going back. And if you're in bad place financially, mentally, or both, you will absolutely sink sitting at home...
charlie0 2y ago
It's all terrible working conditions and awful bosses until you have too much free time and have to start contemplating the meaning of your own life. Then you REALLY have hard work to do or succumb to the impending nihilism.

AndrewKemendo 2y ago

You seem to be assuming that action is beneficial when in fact, that is the polar opposite. Only anxieties cause toil - somebody who is at peace and relaxed, is going to rest and play just like children do when their basic food and care needs are met (possible to do with existing worldwide resources) If everybody sat around doing “nothing”, we would be better off than we are with everybody out there trying to make their own little mini dictatorship, which is what the current state of the world mentality for success is Your mentality is why the world is so terrible

rnewme 2y ago
How is action not beneficial? It's about what you have your focus on. If you're in 2 week long binge watching session of latest Netflix show, you won't be grinding leetcode. I agree, and for someone who is on couch watching TV whole day every day, thought of stopping that and finding new soul sucking job is bound to cause more anexity, than for the person replacing one trash job with the other... I agree it would be better doing nothing than doing wrong things, but you can't have progress without actually doing something. And if you're doing something you will also do mistakes. I absolutely do not approve greedy employees and people leaving their best life years for someone's latest BMW, but I also understand that it is inevitable there will be players like that in the market. What we need to do is keep going - acquire wealth we need for our day to day life and family, secure our future, both financially, but also through activism in form of rights and benefits for working class. You seem to deduce quite a lot about me from a comment that you read and understood in light of your own frustration.
rnewme 2y ago
I just consider it lesser of two evils, never said it's better or should be that way ¯\_(:/)_/¯

digging 2y ago

> a body at rest tends to stay at rest, and a body in motion tends to stay in motion This is not a description of human behavior, but of inanimate objects in Newtonian physics. I'm sure we could find a way to make a description of stellar evolution sound applicable here too, but that doesn't make it so. > someone already working is more likely to change jobs, put pressure on the employer etc Have you met anyone who works? Shit's exhausting. Almost everyone I know would be likely to seek a more fulfilling/satisfying/enjoyable job if they could quit their current job and survive with unemployment as a stopgap.

rnewme 2y ago
> This is not a description of human behavior, but of inanimate objects in Newtonian physics. I'm sure we could find a way to make a description of stellar evolution sound applicable here too, but that doesn't make it so. It was always easier for me, and all friends I know, to change jobs and upgrade while you're already in the workforce. After university, layoffs, sabaticals, even long vacations, it's kinda hard to get back "into it". > Have you met anyone who works? Shit's exhausting. Almost everyone I know would be likely to seek a more fulfilling/satisfying/enjoyable job if they could quit their current job and survive with unemployment as a stopgap. Yea but question was couch potato vs underpaid worker, not a temporarily unemployed person. Definition of couch potato in popular culture is a lazy person that watches TV, not concerned with much. I know more people who lived on CC between jobs, but still moved to new positions, than couch potatoes who got an actual job after that.
- digging 2y ago
  > Yea but question was couch potato vs underpaid worker, not a temporarily unemployed person. Definition of couch potato in popular culture is a lazy person that watches TV, not concerned with much. I know more people who lived on CC between jobs, but still moved to new positions, than couch potatoes who got an actual job after that. I don't understand your disagreement with what I said, while simultaneously agreeing with the other comment: > There is also the in-between where these benefits allow you to quit and then look for another job. Something that can be hard to do if you are working long hours as you'd need to take days off that may or may not be approved depending on the company you are working for. We're saying the same thing, I think. Only I'm not concerned with the supposed existence of "couch potatoes."