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You're absolutely right about the software and absolutely wrong about the profile photo. What aspect of it makes it not seem like Google is a serious company? N

You're absolutely right about the software and absolutely wrong about the profile photo. What aspect of it makes it not seem like Google is a serious company? Non-compliance to 1950-1980s appearance norms? Finally getting rid of the universal suit/tie/shaved/etc dress code was the best thing my generation has done.

gjsman-1000 2y ago
Google is currently within the last month suffering from an appearance of being juvenile; and I would not be surprised if it’s causing concern that something is wrong with their mindset. The last example of this was the Marc Rebillet performance at Google I/O. The mother of all cringe. If it was just one employee having fun - whatever! Who cares! My point should be taken in context with the rest of Google’s juvenile image problems, even as they play with fire. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wwk1QIDswcQ&pp=ygUVTWFyYyBSZWJpbGxldCAgZ29vZ2xl https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wwk1QIDswcQ&pp=ygUVTWFyYyBSZWJ... Edit: Also, for those still not following me on the profile image, it’s because it’s kink: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40791195 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40791195
- aseo 2y ago
  boomer moment
- imchillyb 2y ago
  That's got to be one of the worst presentations I've seen in the last year. Who green lights garbage like that?
  - JimDabell 2y ago
    At least there weren’t any ducks, unlike last year: https://youtu.be/-cl0AXv2J4Y?t=963 https://youtu.be/-cl0AXv2J4Y?t=963
  - spankalee 2y ago
    It's a performance, not a presentation.
  - ajford 2y ago
    It's serving as both a demo of their generative AI and is an entertainment pre-show. It's not meant to be a presentation or deeply informative.
  - AirMax98 2y ago
    Crowd clapping on the 1 and 3 is a nice confirmation that the crew has zero fucking rhythm.
- johnnyanmac 2y ago
  I work in games, so this doesn't even phase me. I don't particularly care what people think of my maturity as long as the money keeps flowing in. >"When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.” ― C.S. Lewis
  - gjsman-1000 2y ago
    “An atheist can’t find God for the same reason a thief can’t find a policeman.” — C.S. Lewis But seriously, Lewis was not a fan of immaturity. “Childish” endeavors is one thing like fairy tales - but do you think even children would like the Google IO performance?
- superkuh 2y ago
  I cringe more about the terrible "serious" design decisions Goog and friends are shoving through the IETF like HTTP/3 based on their QUIC. Their new HTTP protocol basically is designed only for corporate use cases to the deteriment of "juvenile" human person use cases. Their actions are super serious even if their words and appearance are not. And it's a problem.
  - adzm 2y ago
    Maybe I'm misunderstanding something but quic has been really great to work with and solved a lot of problems in places other than http for me personally
    - superkuh 2y ago
      I'm not saying HTTP/3 is bad for the type of things people get paid to do. I'm saying it's bad for the type of things people chose to do without being paid. For example, it's impossible to connect to a website with HTTP/3 that does not have a CA TLS cert (and all HTTP/3 libs in major browsers are compiled with self-signing disabled). That means it's impossible to host a visitable website (by random people) without getting the continued permission from a third party corporation (there are no CAs included in browsers that are run by human persons, there are only corporate and government CAs). This is extremely sensible for for-profit corporation and institutional practices. But it makes hosting a website from home far, far more complex, fragile and gives all websites a very short lifetime (just months) without continued active mantainence. Normal HTTP+HTTPS websites are visitable forever without doing anything. And that's ignoring the problems of CA centralization and censorship. Having to ask permission from a corporation to host a website is absurd. It is not required in HTTP/1.1 or HTTP/2. HTTP+HTTPS is the most robust and accepted solution to CA TLS problems but HTTP/3 doesn't allow it.
- add-sub-mul-div 2y ago
  Juvenility is not on the top ten list of problems with Google that are worth worrying about.
  - gjsman-1000 2y ago
    If this is my vendor that my business is relying on, and they approved nonsense like the above or like this, why the heck would I trust their judgement? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40791158 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40791158 I wouldn’t trust the person who made the above to drive me to the gas station.
    - add-sub-mul-div 2y ago
      You're free to your values and decisions, but Google is the progenitor and linchpin of surveillance capitalism and comparatively I can't find it in me to be bothered that they put on silly shows.
      - AirMax98 2y ago
        There's a point to be made that these silly little shows are what let Google promote a self-image that they are some ineffectual, twee organization like a local art collective, and it's this mild image that let's Google manufacture spyware without more intense scrutiny. It's subterfuge, and two sides of the same coin.
- spankalee 2y ago
  > The last example of this was the Marc Rebillet performance at Google I/O. The mother of all cringe You're complaining about the warmup entertainment at a tech conference???
  - tdb7893 2y ago
    In case you didn't know, HN stands for Hater News and as the old saying goes, "haters gonna hate"
sjf 2y ago
They are wearing an eternity collar, which means they are in a BDSM relationship. Wearing something highly visible like that is basically performing your kink in public. There is much more discrete jewelry they could wear. I don’t think it’s appropriate for a work place even in 2024.
- olliej 2y ago
  That looks like a regular necklace to me, of a fairly generic choker variety that is popular today and was popular 20 years ago. I see nothing explicit in that necklace. Maybe to you it does have some additional meanings, hell maybe it does to her as well, but so do wedding rings, and I’m going to go out on a limb and say you aren’t critiquing people for having profile pics with those.
- debo_ 2y ago
  Their jewellery appears discrete to me. What would continuous jewellery look like? You may not think it's appropriate for a workplace, but their employer clearly does or they wouldn't be employed.
- spankalee 2y ago
  That photo is absolutely fine. You're telling on yourself more than anything else.
- prmoustache 2y ago
  99% of the population wouldn't know what that jewelry is anyway, including some of those who wear it. And wearing a collar is not performkng anything kinky.
- hooverd 2y ago
  If you know, you know, otherwise it's just jewelry.
- ajford 2y ago
  And how is that any different than any other piece of jewelry? It in no way impedes or impacts your life, just like hair color or cut, earrings, other necklaces, even wedding rings. Why does it matter that it has a significance beyond "it's pretty"? As long as it's not obviously discriminatory in nature (like a necklace full of swastikas), then why does it have to pass your "decency" tests?

gjsman-1000 2y ago

Google is currently within the last month suffering from an appearance of being juvenile; and I would not be surprised if it’s causing concern that something is wrong with their mindset. The last example of this was the Marc Rebillet performance at Google I/O. The mother of all cringe. If it was just one employee having fun - whatever! Who cares! My point should be taken in context with the rest of Google’s juvenile image problems, even as they play with fire. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wwk1QIDswcQ&pp=ygUVTWFyYyBSZWJpbGxldCAgZ29vZ2xl https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wwk1QIDswcQ&pp=ygUVTWFyYyBSZWJ... Edit: Also, for those still not following me on the profile image, it’s because it’s kink: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40791195 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40791195

aseo 2y ago
boomer moment
imchillyb 2y ago
That's got to be one of the worst presentations I've seen in the last year. Who green lights garbage like that?
- JimDabell 2y ago
  At least there weren’t any ducks, unlike last year: https://youtu.be/-cl0AXv2J4Y?t=963 https://youtu.be/-cl0AXv2J4Y?t=963
- spankalee 2y ago
  It's a performance, not a presentation.
- ajford 2y ago
  It's serving as both a demo of their generative AI and is an entertainment pre-show. It's not meant to be a presentation or deeply informative.
- AirMax98 2y ago
  Crowd clapping on the 1 and 3 is a nice confirmation that the crew has zero fucking rhythm.
johnnyanmac 2y ago
I work in games, so this doesn't even phase me. I don't particularly care what people think of my maturity as long as the money keeps flowing in. >"When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.” ― C.S. Lewis
- gjsman-1000 2y ago
  “An atheist can’t find God for the same reason a thief can’t find a policeman.” — C.S. Lewis But seriously, Lewis was not a fan of immaturity. “Childish” endeavors is one thing like fairy tales - but do you think even children would like the Google IO performance?
superkuh 2y ago
I cringe more about the terrible "serious" design decisions Goog and friends are shoving through the IETF like HTTP/3 based on their QUIC. Their new HTTP protocol basically is designed only for corporate use cases to the deteriment of "juvenile" human person use cases. Their actions are super serious even if their words and appearance are not. And it's a problem.
- adzm 2y ago
  Maybe I'm misunderstanding something but quic has been really great to work with and solved a lot of problems in places other than http for me personally
  - superkuh 2y ago
    I'm not saying HTTP/3 is bad for the type of things people get paid to do. I'm saying it's bad for the type of things people chose to do without being paid. For example, it's impossible to connect to a website with HTTP/3 that does not have a CA TLS cert (and all HTTP/3 libs in major browsers are compiled with self-signing disabled). That means it's impossible to host a visitable website (by random people) without getting the continued permission from a third party corporation (there are no CAs included in browsers that are run by human persons, there are only corporate and government CAs). This is extremely sensible for for-profit corporation and institutional practices. But it makes hosting a website from home far, far more complex, fragile and gives all websites a very short lifetime (just months) without continued active mantainence. Normal HTTP+HTTPS websites are visitable forever without doing anything. And that's ignoring the problems of CA centralization and censorship. Having to ask permission from a corporation to host a website is absurd. It is not required in HTTP/1.1 or HTTP/2. HTTP+HTTPS is the most robust and accepted solution to CA TLS problems but HTTP/3 doesn't allow it.
add-sub-mul-div 2y ago
Juvenility is not on the top ten list of problems with Google that are worth worrying about.
- gjsman-1000 2y ago
  If this is my vendor that my business is relying on, and they approved nonsense like the above or like this, why the heck would I trust their judgement? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40791158 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40791158 I wouldn’t trust the person who made the above to drive me to the gas station.
  - add-sub-mul-div 2y ago
    You're free to your values and decisions, but Google is the progenitor and linchpin of surveillance capitalism and comparatively I can't find it in me to be bothered that they put on silly shows.
    - AirMax98 2y ago
      There's a point to be made that these silly little shows are what let Google promote a self-image that they are some ineffectual, twee organization like a local art collective, and it's this mild image that let's Google manufacture spyware without more intense scrutiny. It's subterfuge, and two sides of the same coin.
spankalee 2y ago
> The last example of this was the Marc Rebillet performance at Google I/O. The mother of all cringe You're complaining about the warmup entertainment at a tech conference???
- tdb7893 2y ago
  In case you didn't know, HN stands for Hater News and as the old saying goes, "haters gonna hate"

sjf 2y ago

They are wearing an eternity collar, which means they are in a BDSM relationship. Wearing something highly visible like that is basically performing your kink in public. There is much more discrete jewelry they could wear. I don’t think it’s appropriate for a work place even in 2024.

olliej 2y ago
That looks like a regular necklace to me, of a fairly generic choker variety that is popular today and was popular 20 years ago. I see nothing explicit in that necklace. Maybe to you it does have some additional meanings, hell maybe it does to her as well, but so do wedding rings, and I’m going to go out on a limb and say you aren’t critiquing people for having profile pics with those.
debo_ 2y ago
Their jewellery appears discrete to me. What would continuous jewellery look like? You may not think it's appropriate for a workplace, but their employer clearly does or they wouldn't be employed.
spankalee 2y ago
That photo is absolutely fine. You're telling on yourself more than anything else.
prmoustache 2y ago
99% of the population wouldn't know what that jewelry is anyway, including some of those who wear it. And wearing a collar is not performkng anything kinky.
hooverd 2y ago
If you know, you know, otherwise it's just jewelry.
ajford 2y ago
And how is that any different than any other piece of jewelry? It in no way impedes or impacts your life, just like hair color or cut, earrings, other necklaces, even wedding rings. Why does it matter that it has a significance beyond "it's pretty"? As long as it's not obviously discriminatory in nature (like a necklace full of swastikas), then why does it have to pass your "decency" tests?