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So smooth they apparently opt to blow red lights instead of stopping abruptly. source: I commute by skateboard in SF daily. Just yesterday an empty Waymo crui
by pengaru 2y ago
So smooth they apparently opt to blow red lights instead of stopping abruptly.
source: I commute by skateboard in SF daily. Just yesterday an empty Waymo cruised straight through a fresh red, narrowly missing my entry into the crosswalk.
But don't get me started on what I've seen human drivers do on the same streets. Just annoyed that Waymo's aren't better.
- choppaface 2y agoHave also nearly been hit as a pedestrian by a Waymo. I also last week saw a Waymo blow through a yellow-red very aggressively, so I think the downvotes on above comment are intensely biased.
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- jeffbee 2y agoThe way you can tell that a mode of transport is very safe is there are tons of people online whining that they almost got killed by it.
- archagon 2y agoNo. It means it’s only a matter of time before this technology breaks the law and kills someone.
- Schiendelman 2y agoOr people are sensitive to it and the rate at which it kills people will be lower than humans, or probably already is!
- Swizec 2y agoCompeting anecdata: Yesterday I was running downtown and a Waymo stopped for me at a green light because it wasn't sure if I was gonna jaywalk (jayrun?). Only once I stood still for a few seconds did it continue to make its turn. This was in a turn-left-only intersection with a separate pedestrian light. Maybe the Waymo got confused and thought I also had green.
- entropicdrifter 2y agoCould also be that they're taught to be overly cautious to avoid suicidally stupid humans
- Swizec 2y agoIt's pretty normal for people running in densely populated cities with 15mph average traffic speeds to ignore red lights. Nothing suicidal about it :)
- microtherion 2y agoYes, but SF seems to have some truly reckless pedestrians, often presumably under the influence of substances. There are graduations between "cross at a red light when you think it's safe to do so" and "barge into a 4 lane street in the middle of a block because the voices in your head tell you to".
- darepublic 2y agoI sometimes wait on pedestrians when turning right on a green and pedestrians do a little dance on the corner that makes it hard to tell if/when they're gonna cross.
- linearrust 2y ago> So smooth they apparently opt to blow red lights instead of stopping abruptly. Surprised traffic lights aren't updated to communicate with cars directly. Why not have traffic lights broadcast 'stop' message along with turning red? I suspect traffic lights, roads and cities will have to be updated to work with driverless cars.
- barbariangrunge 2y agoIt does. It uses a specific band on the electro magnetic spectrum commonly supported by most receivers
- jazzyjackson 2y agohm? Are you mixed up with Transit Signal Priority where Muni can request the light stay green a little longer? I've never heard of the lights transmitting their timing This article from SFMTA erroneously states that the busses use "GPS to communicate with the traffic signal", lol, what is the actual band used ? https://www.sfmta.com/blog/green-lights-muni https://www.sfmta.com/blog/green-lights-muni
- nmeofthestate 2y agoI think the commenter was alluding to the 430 terahertz band.
- kajecounterhack 2y agoSF traffic lights do not.
- dekhn 2y agoOf course they do. A specially trained human can even visualize those signals.
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- throwaway2037 2y agoI would like to see video of an equivalent incident.
- iknowstuff 2y agoI think it’s legal to enter an intersection on yellow and exit on red in CA. Thats why. Human drivers speed up to avoid red, and yay you avoided red but the suddenly higher speed is far more dangerous for everyone around.
- Ferret7446 2y agoWhy would it be illegal to enter on yellow? I thought that's the entire point of yellow. Otherwise we'd just have red and green, and hopefully you can imagine how that would work out.
- kortilla 2y agoIn some states you are supposed to attempt to stop on yellow unless it’s unsafe to do so: https://axleaddict.com/safety/The-Meaning-of-the-Yellow-Traffic-Signal-in-All-US-Jurisdictions https://axleaddict.com/safety/The-Meaning-of-the-Yellow-Traf...
- iknowstuff 2y agoIts the leaving on red being legal thats the interesting part. Plenty other jurisdictions will ticket if your car is still on the intersection when it turns red.
- fragmede 2y agoAnecdata to say I've been in a Waymo and had it run a red.