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Oh well. I guess it's time for Microsoft to discontinue Teams, destroy any related IP, purge any copies from GitHub/developer workstations/backups, forcibly uni

Oh well. I guess it's time for Microsoft to discontinue Teams, destroy any related IP, purge any copies from GitHub/developer workstations/backups, forcibly uninstall it from end-user machines, update Windows to forcibly delete any copies installed in the future, and never, ever, ever under any circumstances try to compete in the chat/video conferencing market ever again. The world will survive, if just barely.

BigJono 2y ago
What would I ever do without my software engineering team collaboration tool that can't send a fucking code snippet without burning half the screen on whitespace and a 400px font size title lol
- initplus 2y ago
  And that’s the upgraded version. Previously it just… wasn’t possible at all?
  - bornfreddy 2y ago
    We should not mock MS though. This is a really difficult feature to get it right the first time around. /s
- phito 2y ago
  My god yes. It's so, so bad...
- daemonologist 2y ago
  I've taken to sending code snippets as regular message text with the monospaced font, because the code snippets feature is so awkward and slow (and sometimes won't load for the recipient at all).
- Phelinofist 2y ago
  I mostly use "> " for this, but that might hit the message length restriction, then you are forced to use the snippet thing.
- stefan_ 2y ago
  My favorite Teams bug and it took me a moment to understand the stupidity of what was happening: you copy a message you have received from someone and send it back to them. It is invisible on their screen. You have dark mode so what you copied was white text, which ends up being white on their light mode Teams. Nowadays I just get irrationally angry at the utter imbecile that decided you want to copy an abbreviated date and the sender name whenever you copy a message.
  - irusensei 2y ago
    Copy and paste retaining style is one of the most annoying things in normie computing. Just why? And on teams it basically infects any other text you right afterwards.
- kyriakos 2y ago
  Haha I've faced this issue for years but it seems like they fixed it. You now can also set the code highlighting option directly from the editor without going into options. Took them years unfortunately.
- a_e_k 2y ago
  I've often wondered about that. I feel like it says something about the development team behind Teams if either, (a) it doesn't bother them, or (b) they don't dog-food their own product this way. (Just give me fenced code blocks, please!)
- marcosdumay 2y ago
  I hope your code doesn't use colons anyway, :parameter for example is a forbidden word. Oh, and line breaks get replaced by something that breaks some editors¹, and quotes obviously get mangled. 1 - I mean, look at their name! Teams is right here!
chongli 2y ago
Don’t forget compensation! Microsoft should be forced to pay compensation to anyone who has ever used Teams, scaled in proportion to the number of hours they’ve had to leave it running on their computer.
- falcor84 2y ago
  That actually would be amazing - I would be very much in favour of large companies (e.g. based on number of users / market cap) having to put significant sums of money in escrow ahead of any software release, which would then be distributed to its users as compensation in the case of a data breach or regulatory rulings.
  - wpasc 2y ago
    I can't imagine any jurisdiction that tried this would see anything other than large companies prohibiting their software from being used in that jurisdiction. Any company that then grew large would quickly exit. Every iOS update requires 1B+ to sit in escrow?
bloopernova 2y ago
The most beautiful words I've read today. Can everyone please use Mattermost, Slack, or Matrix chat?
croes 2y ago
Or maybe MS could try real competition. A standalone product the user can buy and install if he wishes to. You know, like other companies who don't happen to be the OS developer.
EasyMark 2y ago
Or just not install it on new windows versions? I mean it’s easy enough to leave old versions intact if they already exist and make IT install teams/office if they’re actually being used.

BigJono 2y ago

What would I ever do without my software engineering team collaboration tool that can't send a fucking code snippet without burning half the screen on whitespace and a 400px font size title lol

initplus 2y ago
And that’s the upgraded version. Previously it just… wasn’t possible at all?
- bornfreddy 2y ago
  We should not mock MS though. This is a really difficult feature to get it right the first time around. /s
phito 2y ago
My god yes. It's so, so bad...
daemonologist 2y ago
I've taken to sending code snippets as regular message text with the monospaced font, because the code snippets feature is so awkward and slow (and sometimes won't load for the recipient at all).
Phelinofist 2y ago
I mostly use "> " for this, but that might hit the message length restriction, then you are forced to use the snippet thing.
stefan_ 2y ago
My favorite Teams bug and it took me a moment to understand the stupidity of what was happening: you copy a message you have received from someone and send it back to them. It is invisible on their screen. You have dark mode so what you copied was white text, which ends up being white on their light mode Teams. Nowadays I just get irrationally angry at the utter imbecile that decided you want to copy an abbreviated date and the sender name whenever you copy a message.
- irusensei 2y ago
  Copy and paste retaining style is one of the most annoying things in normie computing. Just why? And on teams it basically infects any other text you right afterwards.
kyriakos 2y ago
Haha I've faced this issue for years but it seems like they fixed it. You now can also set the code highlighting option directly from the editor without going into options. Took them years unfortunately.
a_e_k 2y ago
I've often wondered about that. I feel like it says something about the development team behind Teams if either, (a) it doesn't bother them, or (b) they don't dog-food their own product this way. (Just give me fenced code blocks, please!)
marcosdumay 2y ago
I hope your code doesn't use colons anyway, :parameter for example is a forbidden word. Oh, and line breaks get replaced by something that breaks some editors¹, and quotes obviously get mangled. 1 - I mean, look at their name! Teams is right here!

chongli 2y ago

Don’t forget compensation! Microsoft should be forced to pay compensation to anyone who has ever used Teams, scaled in proportion to the number of hours they’ve had to leave it running on their computer.

falcor84 2y ago
That actually would be amazing - I would be very much in favour of large companies (e.g. based on number of users / market cap) having to put significant sums of money in escrow ahead of any software release, which would then be distributed to its users as compensation in the case of a data breach or regulatory rulings.
- wpasc 2y ago
  I can't imagine any jurisdiction that tried this would see anything other than large companies prohibiting their software from being used in that jurisdiction. Any company that then grew large would quickly exit. Every iOS update requires 1B+ to sit in escrow?

bloopernova 2y ago

The most beautiful words I've read today. Can everyone please use Mattermost, Slack, or Matrix chat?

croes 2y ago

Or maybe MS could try real competition. A standalone product the user can buy and install if he wishes to. You know, like other companies who don't happen to be the OS developer.

EasyMark 2y ago

Or just not install it on new windows versions? I mean it’s easy enough to leave old versions intact if they already exist and make IT install teams/office if they’re actually being used.