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You'd expect them to have learnt the lesson with Internet Explorer but, as someone said, there is no way a man will understand something when his salary depends
by pif 2y ago
You'd expect them to have learnt the lesson with Internet Explorer but, as someone said, there is no way a man will understand something when his salary depends on him not understanding it!
- LordKeren 2y agoThe Internet Explorer lawsuit was also 20 years ago
- wccrawford 2y agoAnd other companies have gotten away with bundling a lot of stuff since then. I could see why they think maybe the same ruling wouldn't happen today.
- rekoil 2y agoThere was no framework for fining them, each case would have to be handled separately, now there is such a framework in the DMA and DSA, which greatly simplifies the regulators jobs. I suspect that many other players are about to see such charges against them.
- red_trumpet 2y agoYou sure? From the article: > In 2009 Microsoft was also forced to implement a browser ballot box in its Windows operating system to ensure users were presented with a choice of web browsers, after years of Microsoft bunding Internet Explorer with Windows. Microsoft was then fined $730 million in 2013 for failing to include the browser ballot in Windows 7 SP1. That is 15 years at most, and 11 years for the most recent incident.
- LordKeren 2y agoYes, the lawsuit closed in 2001 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Corp https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_C....
- _xivi 2y agoIt's true that the US lawsuit was in 2001, but the EU antitrust fine (the discussion subject here) for failing to comply with offering a browsers ballot screen was in 2013[1], merely 11 years ago. Roughly the same crew still running the show, it didn't slip through their mind, just the $732 million fine wasn't enough to deter them from doing it again [1]- https://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/07/technology/eu-fines-microsoft-over-browser.html https://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/07/technology/eu-fines-micro...
- GardenLetter27 2y agoWhat lesson though? A slap on the wrist?
- oaiey 2y agoModern productivity experiences in Microsoft 365 and Google Workspace are something very different than just invading another market and killing the market leader there. The Teams use case as shown a high degree of integration with the rest of the Microsoft 365 platform which was not comparable to IE.
- pbhjpbhj 2y agoThey probably did learn their lesson -- even if we get fined we'll still profit so we will still do what we want. Fine the C-suite n years of total income (including unrealised income).