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Unfortunately anything Musk adjacent will result in people absolutely jumping on the hate bandwagon before there are details. Let’s wait until we know more det

Unfortunately anything Musk adjacent will result in people absolutely jumping on the hate bandwagon before there are details. Let’s wait until we know more details of what happened. This could’ve been the trucks fault, or it could’ve been the driver falling asleep and blaming the truck. If this was poor design on Tesla’s fault, then yes we criticize them, however we criticize the company as a whole (including musk), not just their CEO. I’m not sure why everyone is so entrenched and hyper fixated one way or another on one human being.

jjav 2y ago
> Let’s wait until we know more details of what happened. Yes, there are some unknowns here, would be great to find out all the details. > This could’ve been the trucks fault, or it could’ve been the driver falling asleep and blaming the truck. But based on the facts known so far, we know this is not it. The driver was braking hard given the locked rear wheels.
- XenophileJKO 2y ago
  I don't think we know the facts. Are there good forensic photos of the accident? I saw the video and it was hard to see any details other then the truck running up the driveway. For example I'm really interested in how they determined that the "back" tires were locked. The back axle has 2x the power of the front in the Cyberbeast. The suspicious part is the the driver said the steering was non-responsive. Without better information, I suspect either user or system failure with full throttle and brakes causing the front wheels to lock up (because they have more brake force and half HP) causing the loss of steering and back wheels overpowering brakes.
  - Doxin 2y ago
    > back wheels overpowering brakes. In just about any vaguely modern car hitting the brakes will disengage the throttle. In just about any car the brakes should be able to overpower the engine. There is no situation in which a car should be moving if you hit the brakes and the gas simultaneously. Even if this is user error, there's something clearly wrong with how the car behaved in this situation.
add-sub-mul-div 2y ago
Live by culture war dipshit behavior, die by culture war dipshit behavior. Whatever he's getting, he brought it on himself.

jjav 2y ago

> Let’s wait until we know more details of what happened. Yes, there are some unknowns here, would be great to find out all the details. > This could’ve been the trucks fault, or it could’ve been the driver falling asleep and blaming the truck. But based on the facts known so far, we know this is not it. The driver was braking hard given the locked rear wheels.

XenophileJKO 2y ago
I don't think we know the facts. Are there good forensic photos of the accident? I saw the video and it was hard to see any details other then the truck running up the driveway. For example I'm really interested in how they determined that the "back" tires were locked. The back axle has 2x the power of the front in the Cyberbeast. The suspicious part is the the driver said the steering was non-responsive. Without better information, I suspect either user or system failure with full throttle and brakes causing the front wheels to lock up (because they have more brake force and half HP) causing the loss of steering and back wheels overpowering brakes.
- Doxin 2y ago
  > back wheels overpowering brakes. In just about any vaguely modern car hitting the brakes will disengage the throttle. In just about any car the brakes should be able to overpower the engine. There is no situation in which a car should be moving if you hit the brakes and the gas simultaneously. Even if this is user error, there's something clearly wrong with how the car behaved in this situation.

add-sub-mul-div 2y ago

Live by culture war dipshit behavior, die by culture war dipshit behavior. Whatever he's getting, he brought it on himself.