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Same thing the Colorado law that required employers to include salaries in job ads did: exclude Colorado residents.

dghlsakjg 2y ago
How are Colorado banks, landlords, and employers going to exclude their customers and employees? Right now the law just asks for disclosure and sets up a human appeal process for AI based decisions.
- jmclnx 2y ago
  Yes, for local small business jobs you are correct. But these laws could cause large multinationals to leave Colorado. Plus, in reality, banks really do not "need" tellers since most people get direct deposit, use debit/credit cards and phones for transactions. So large banks could leave too. I remember reading somewhere banks do not really like saving accounts since most people keep a small balance in them. With that said, I wish the laws Colorado has for AI and salaries could be nation wide.
  - dghlsakjg 2y ago
    Do you think that large multinationals are really going to pull out of a market over having to update their disclosures in fine print? Reducing your applicant pool in a state you don’t operate in because you can’t be bothered to disclose salary is one thing. Closing down branches, losing customers and firing hundreds or thousands of employees in a move that reduces your bottom line is a whole other thing.
mattwad 2y ago
You have to start somewhere. There's now 13 states that require pay transparency, and more that are considering it. https://www.govdocs.com/pay-transparency-laws/ https://www.govdocs.com/pay-transparency-laws/
soared 2y ago
I’ve never seen a job excluding Colorado residents, and I live in Denver and search for jobs. Employers just ignore it for remote work, or put a really big range. Big ranges are still useful since it’s always enough to make a decision on whether to apply or not.
- lelandfe 2y ago
  I did see Colorado excluded, and even worked for a (Not Good) company that did it. I haven’t seen any examples this year, however, likely because California and New York followed suit.
- Jtsummers 2y ago
  When it first went into effect there were remote job listings that suddenly added exclusions for Coloradans. Also listings that were removed and re-added but with the exclusion added. My wife was in the middle of getting interviewed by Oracle when the law came into effect (she was on the last of several rounds of interviews), they dropped her and the listing and reposted it the next week barring people from Colorado from applying. I haven't seen this in a while, though.
  - soared 2y ago
    Yeah seems weird since oracle has a campus in Broomfield and office in DTC, but that company is a mess so doesn’t surprise me.
throwaway48476 2y ago
The ads I've seen now exclude multiple states. At some point it just gets silly.

How are Colorado banks, landlords, and employers going to exclude their customers and employees? Right now the law just asks for disclosure and sets up a human appeal process for AI based decisions.

jmclnx 2y ago
Yes, for local small business jobs you are correct. But these laws could cause large multinationals to leave Colorado. Plus, in reality, banks really do not "need" tellers since most people get direct deposit, use debit/credit cards and phones for transactions. So large banks could leave too. I remember reading somewhere banks do not really like saving accounts since most people keep a small balance in them. With that said, I wish the laws Colorado has for AI and salaries could be nation wide.
- dghlsakjg 2y ago
  Do you think that large multinationals are really going to pull out of a market over having to update their disclosures in fine print? Reducing your applicant pool in a state you don’t operate in because you can’t be bothered to disclose salary is one thing. Closing down branches, losing customers and firing hundreds or thousands of employees in a move that reduces your bottom line is a whole other thing.

mattwad 2y ago

You have to start somewhere. There's now 13 states that require pay transparency, and more that are considering it. https://www.govdocs.com/pay-transparency-laws/ https://www.govdocs.com/pay-transparency-laws/

soared 2y ago

I’ve never seen a job excluding Colorado residents, and I live in Denver and search for jobs. Employers just ignore it for remote work, or put a really big range. Big ranges are still useful since it’s always enough to make a decision on whether to apply or not.

lelandfe 2y ago
I did see Colorado excluded, and even worked for a (Not Good) company that did it. I haven’t seen any examples this year, however, likely because California and New York followed suit.
Jtsummers 2y ago
When it first went into effect there were remote job listings that suddenly added exclusions for Coloradans. Also listings that were removed and re-added but with the exclusion added. My wife was in the middle of getting interviewed by Oracle when the law came into effect (she was on the last of several rounds of interviews), they dropped her and the listing and reposted it the next week barring people from Colorado from applying. I haven't seen this in a while, though.
- soared 2y ago
  Yeah seems weird since oracle has a campus in Broomfield and office in DTC, but that company is a mess so doesn’t surprise me.

throwaway48476 2y ago

The ads I've seen now exclude multiple states. At some point it just gets silly.