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There should be some kind of legal document an artist can choose to complete, a "Do Not Reanimate Me" choice. If they decline to make a decision, or agree to b

There should be some kind of legal document an artist can choose to complete, a "Do Not Reanimate Me" choice. If they decline to make a decision, or agree to be simulated, fine. If they they make their wishes known, that should be respected by their estate.

yoyohello13 2y ago
Really it should be opt-in. All currently dead artists should be off limits by default.
- makeitdouble 2y ago
  The question would be who this rule is for. It's not for the artists, they're dead. It's not for the right holders, as they're already in control of what happens with the likelihood of the deceased artist. If it's for the family, they should be set as right holders from the start if it mattered to the artist. Is it for the public then ? Should the public have a say on how the right holder monetize their assets ? I see an argument from preventing art pieces from disappearing at the will of the right holder, but preventing creation of new art should not be a public decision IMHO.
- shadowgovt 2y ago
  How does that notion mesh with existing precedent on the public domain regarding intellectual property?
SoftTalker 2y ago
Dead people generally don't have rights.
- grugagag 2y ago
  Most societies learned to respect their dead. We may be at a turning point.
- JTyQZSnP3cQGa8B 2y ago
  That’s false. They write wills that we respect, and we don’t make kebabs out of their bodies. But it’s the kind of respect that is not trendy anymore…
  - SoftTalker 2y ago
    Yes, we have a legal process for inheritance. What I meant was beyond that. You can't slander a dead person, for example. However it appears that this may not be as clear-cut as I had thought, for example if there is an Estate that is continuing to earn income from the assets of the deceased person, then there may be a basis for the Estate to sue for damages if a slander or libel reduces those earnings. So, I (somewhat) stand corrected. At least in the case of someone like Tupac.
eterm 2y ago
Even that might not be enough. There was a case recently where an author wrote in their will, "Do not release this unfinished material". The estate released it anyway.
xscott 2y ago
Why? Because you don't like it? It's all perverted now, but the intent of copyright was to encourage artists to create new works for the benefit of society. It wasn't because there's some inalienable right to protect their ideas - it was a trade: "limited monopoly" for "new creation". What benefit are the rest of us in society getting in exchange for this rule you want to impose upon us?

yoyohello13 2y ago

Really it should be opt-in. All currently dead artists should be off limits by default.

makeitdouble 2y ago
The question would be who this rule is for. It's not for the artists, they're dead. It's not for the right holders, as they're already in control of what happens with the likelihood of the deceased artist. If it's for the family, they should be set as right holders from the start if it mattered to the artist. Is it for the public then ? Should the public have a say on how the right holder monetize their assets ? I see an argument from preventing art pieces from disappearing at the will of the right holder, but preventing creation of new art should not be a public decision IMHO.
shadowgovt 2y ago
How does that notion mesh with existing precedent on the public domain regarding intellectual property?

SoftTalker 2y ago

Dead people generally don't have rights.

grugagag 2y ago
Most societies learned to respect their dead. We may be at a turning point.
JTyQZSnP3cQGa8B 2y ago
That’s false. They write wills that we respect, and we don’t make kebabs out of their bodies. But it’s the kind of respect that is not trendy anymore…
- SoftTalker 2y ago
  Yes, we have a legal process for inheritance. What I meant was beyond that. You can't slander a dead person, for example. However it appears that this may not be as clear-cut as I had thought, for example if there is an Estate that is continuing to earn income from the assets of the deceased person, then there may be a basis for the Estate to sue for damages if a slander or libel reduces those earnings. So, I (somewhat) stand corrected. At least in the case of someone like Tupac.

eterm 2y ago

Even that might not be enough. There was a case recently where an author wrote in their will, "Do not release this unfinished material". The estate released it anyway.

xscott 2y ago

Why? Because you don't like it? It's all perverted now, but the intent of copyright was to encourage artists to create new works for the benefit of society. It wasn't because there's some inalienable right to protect their ideas - it was a trade: "limited monopoly" for "new creation". What benefit are the rest of us in society getting in exchange for this rule you want to impose upon us?