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Or people just aren’t reporting crime because at this point, in many places, it’s fruitless. I know I don’t report crime anymore, got robbed in Seattle recentl
by mtnGoat 2y ago
Or people just aren’t reporting crime because at this point, in many places, it’s fruitless.
I know I don’t report crime anymore, got robbed in Seattle recently, didn’t bother calling it in.
- alan-hn 2y agoMurder is almost always reported and has been on a decline, along with general violent crime, since the 90s
- saint_fiasco 2y agoMake sure to also add up attempted murders, assaults with deadly weapon and things like that. If you don't, every time medicine improves, it will look like people are less murderous. In reality the victims might just have access to better hospitals.
- alan-hn 2y agoThat is why I mentioned "general violent crime"
- saint_fiasco 2y agoBut the reason you mentioned murder in the first place is that, unlike general violent crime, it always gets reported. So it turns out that both measures are kind of hard to use, for different reasons. Personally, that's no reason to be solipsistic about it. I can still form coherent ideas about whether or not there is more crime than usual. But it does leave enough wiggle room for people to lie about the issue for political reasons, in whichever direction you least prefer.
- thematt 2y agoNot true, even for murder stats. It’s perfectly reasonable to challenge the accuracy of the numbers. The FBI and NYC use the same definitions for murder and starting in 2023 and 2024 their numbers haven’t matched. The FBI is reporting -13% fewer murders in 2023 than the NYPD recorded and -47% fewer murders so far in 2024. If you look at absolute numbers, the NYPD is recording year over year increases in major violent felonies whereas the FBI is saying there are year over year decreases.
- alan-hn 2y agoAs I stated elsewhere, this is very recent and does not negate the overall downward trend happening since the 90s
- ljsprague 2y ago[flagged]
- alan-hn 2y agoYou mean since COVID when people lost their jobs? Kind of a self report to associate it with BLM instead of the obvious and most studied answer: poverty
- squigz 2y agoWhat does BLM have to do with it?
- HeatrayEnjoyer 2y agoBecause black people = criminals in their mind
- ljsprague 2y agoBLM protests led to reduced policing which led to more bold criminals.
- LUmBULtERA 2y agoI suggest you report it. Obviously it’s not fruitless, because it will be useful for crime stats.
- stcroixx 2y agoThere's no requirement to report stats to the FBI and several municipalities and local sheriff's have stopped. The stats the FBI have are not a very accurate picture of reality.
- alan-hn 2y agoThat's only the last two years and does not negate over two decades of data showing a downward trend
- Kye 2y agoWhen was it ever fruitful? They always just showed up for the report for insurance, if that.
- Dig1t 2y agoWhen there was a chance that police would actually investigate and try to do something. Right now the cops won’t even show up unless property crime is > $1000 in most cities. Even if they are caught they are usually released without bail and have no need to ever show up for court after that. It wasn’t always this way, this is a recent change.