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> And who loves waiting 30 minutes for Steam games to update on a slow connection? Imagine what we could pack on physical media now and mail to your door if tha
by pcwalton 2y ago
> And who loves waiting 30 minutes for Steam games to update on a slow connection? Imagine what we could pack on physical media now and mail to your door if that were still the model.
I mean, say what you will about Steam's server bandwidth, it's at least higher bandwidth than the postal service.
- denkmoon 2y agoDepends where you live ;)
- add-sub-mul-div 2y agoBut once it gets to your house, it's actually yours. And then you can play it going forward without a service tracking you. Digital ownership is a massive ongoing failure of a marshmallow test.
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- solardev 2y agoWhat is a "marshmallow test"? I've never heard that phrase before?
- vel0city 2y agoA psychological study of children if they would take a small but immediate payout versus a larger but delayed payout. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_marshmallow_experiment https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_marshmallow_experim...
- Ygg2 2y agoYou mean that study, where they forgot to check for affluence? https://behavioralscientist.org/try-to-resist-misinterpreting-the-marshmallow-test/ https://behavioralscientist.org/try-to-resist-misinterpretin...
- eru 2y agoHonestly, I would take the single marshmallow: I don't actually like marshmallows enough, so I would probably enjoy two marshmallows less than a single one. Definitely less than twice as much as a single one. And: given that you are in a psychological experiment, who knows what cruel twists of the experiment the scientists are trying to inflict on you? Perhaps they are actually studying how angry you are going to get when they break their promise? Just eat the damn thing, and they'll have a much harder time taking it away from you.
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- oopsallmagic 2y agoChildren, um, don't use this kind of reasoning.
- eru 2y agoDepends on the exact age, and how much your kid expects to be trolled.
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- shiroiushi 2y agoNo, it's definitely not. The postal service can easily beat any internet service's bandwidth. It might take 5 days to reach you, but if someone sends you a large box full of 20TB hard drives packed with data, there's no way you could download that much data in 5 days over a normal internet connection.
- ghaff 2y agoSomewhat dated by the reference to tapes but still true overall: https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinteresting/comments/20jlv3/never_underestimate_the_bandwidth_of_a_station/ https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinteresting/comments/20jlv3/n...
- shiroiushi 2y agoIt's always been true, depending on how you interpret it. At any given point of time over the lifetime of the internet, there was always more bandwidth in packing a car full of the prevailing storage technology than in using the network. Over time, tape/drive capacities have increased, just as network speeds have, but I don't think was ever a point where the network was faster. Also, it's probably still true, using the latest LTO tapes.
- Arrath 2y agoDo any of these theoreticals account for filling the storage media with data at the source, or ingesting it at the destination? Yes a container of tapes is a lot of data, but how long would that reasonably take to write to tape? How many tape drives could you realistically have attached to the host system ?
- justsomehnguy 2y agoI guess you never saw a proper tape library? · Start with an 80-slot 6U form-factor Base Library Module, and add up to 6 Expansion Library Modules for a total of 560 slots in a 42U rack form factor · 25.2PB of total maximum compressed capacity with 560 slots and LTO-9 drives · Performance scaling from 1 to 42 LTO HH Tape Drives and transfer rates of 300 MB/s per LTO-9 Tape Drive. https://www.hpe.com/psnow/doc/c04111416.html?jumpid=in_pdp-psnow-qs https://www.hpe.com/psnow/doc/c04111416.html?jumpid=in_pdp-p...