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Government is controlled by the highest bidder. I think we should be prepared to do this ourselves by refusing to accept money made by unsafe businesses, even i

Government is controlled by the highest bidder. I think we should be prepared to do this ourselves by refusing to accept money made by unsafe businesses, even if it means saying goodbye to the convenience of fungible money.

creato 2y ago
"Government doesn't work. We just need to make a new government that is much more effective and far reaching in controlling people's behavior."
- __MatrixMan__ 2y ago
  Banding together and refusing to accept harmful money is indeed akin to creating a government, and would indeed be more effective at controlling people's behavior. But participation would be voluntary, and the restriction of harmful behavior would apply to it's enemies, not its citizens. So I'm not quite sure what the problem is.
- satvikpendem 2y ago
  That's not what they said though. Seems to me more of a libertarian ideal than making a new government.
  - jrflowers 2y ago
    Reinventing government and calling it a private corporation is one of the main activities that libertarians engage in
    - __MatrixMan__ 2y ago
      I don't really care what you call it so long as participation is voluntary and it effectively curtails harmful behavior.
      - jrflowers 2y ago
        A system of governance, if you will.
seanmcdirmid 2y ago
Replace government with collective society assurance that no one cheats so we aren’t all doomed. Otherwise, someone will do it, and we all will have to bear the consequences. If only enough individuals are willing to buy these services, then again we all will bear the consequences. There is no way out of this where libertarian ideals can be used to come to a safe result. What makes this even a more wicked problem is that decisions made in other countries will affect us all as well, we can’t isolate ourselves from AI policies made in China for example.
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mochomocha 2y ago
> Government is controlled by the highest bidder. While this might be true for the governments you have personally experienced, this is far from being an aphorism.

creato 2y ago

"Government doesn't work. We just need to make a new government that is much more effective and far reaching in controlling people's behavior."

__MatrixMan__ 2y ago
Banding together and refusing to accept harmful money is indeed akin to creating a government, and would indeed be more effective at controlling people's behavior. But participation would be voluntary, and the restriction of harmful behavior would apply to it's enemies, not its citizens. So I'm not quite sure what the problem is.
satvikpendem 2y ago
That's not what they said though. Seems to me more of a libertarian ideal than making a new government.
- jrflowers 2y ago
  Reinventing government and calling it a private corporation is one of the main activities that libertarians engage in
  - __MatrixMan__ 2y ago
    I don't really care what you call it so long as participation is voluntary and it effectively curtails harmful behavior.
    - jrflowers 2y ago
      A system of governance, if you will.

seanmcdirmid 2y ago

Replace government with collective society assurance that no one cheats so we aren’t all doomed. Otherwise, someone will do it, and we all will have to bear the consequences. If only enough individuals are willing to buy these services, then again we all will bear the consequences. There is no way out of this where libertarian ideals can be used to come to a safe result. What makes this even a more wicked problem is that decisions made in other countries will affect us all as well, we can’t isolate ourselves from AI policies made in China for example.

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mochomocha 2y ago

> Government is controlled by the highest bidder. While this might be true for the governments you have personally experienced, this is far from being an aphorism.