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Given that GenAI is a statistical approach from which intelligence does not emerge as ample experience proves, does this new company plan to take a more human a

Given that GenAI is a statistical approach from which intelligence does not emerge as ample experience proves, does this new company plan to take a more human approach to simulating intelligence instead?

mdp2021 2y ago
> more human approach to simulating intelligence What about a more rational approach to implementing it instead. (Which was not excluded from past plans: they just simply admittedly did not know the formula, and explored emergence. But the next efforts will have to go in the direction of attempting actual intelligence.)
alextheparrot 2y ago
Glibly, I’d also love your definition of the education system writ large.
localfirst 2y ago
We need new math to do what you are thinking of. Highly probable word slot machine is the best we can do right now.
ilrwbwrkhv 2y ago
This. As I wrote in another comment, people fall for marketing gimmicks easily.
jimbokun 2y ago
> Given that GenAI is a statistical approach from which intelligence does not emerge as ample experience proves When was this proven?
sovietswag 2y ago
I sometimes wonder if statistics are like a pane of glass that allow the light of god (the true nature of things) to pass through, while logic/rationalism is the hubris of man playing god. I.e. statistics allow us to access/use the truth even if we don’t understand why it’s so, while rationalism / rule-based methods are often a folly because our understanding is not good enough to construct them.
TeeWEE 2y ago
Lossy compression of all world information results in super intelligence.... Thats the whole eureka thing to understand... To compress well, you need to understand. To predict the next word, you need to undestand the world. Ilya explains it here: https://youtu.be/GI4Tpi48DlA?t=1053 https://youtu.be/GI4Tpi48DlA?t=1053
- TeeWEE 2y ago
  Also to support this: Biological systems are often very simple systems but repeated a lot... The brain is a lot of neurons... Apparently having a neural net (even small) predicts the future better... And that increased survival.. To survive is to predict the future better than the other animal. Survival of the fittest.

mdp2021 2y ago

> more human approach to simulating intelligence What about a more rational approach to implementing it instead. (Which was not excluded from past plans: they just simply admittedly did not know the formula, and explored emergence. But the next efforts will have to go in the direction of attempting actual intelligence.)

alextheparrot 2y ago

Glibly, I’d also love your definition of the education system writ large.

localfirst 2y ago

We need new math to do what you are thinking of. Highly probable word slot machine is the best we can do right now.

ilrwbwrkhv 2y ago

This. As I wrote in another comment, people fall for marketing gimmicks easily.

jimbokun 2y ago

> Given that GenAI is a statistical approach from which intelligence does not emerge as ample experience proves When was this proven?

sovietswag 2y ago

I sometimes wonder if statistics are like a pane of glass that allow the light of god (the true nature of things) to pass through, while logic/rationalism is the hubris of man playing god. I.e. statistics allow us to access/use the truth even if we don’t understand why it’s so, while rationalism / rule-based methods are often a folly because our understanding is not good enough to construct them.

TeeWEE 2y ago

Lossy compression of all world information results in super intelligence.... Thats the whole eureka thing to understand... To compress well, you need to understand. To predict the next word, you need to undestand the world. Ilya explains it here: https://youtu.be/GI4Tpi48DlA?t=1053 https://youtu.be/GI4Tpi48DlA?t=1053

TeeWEE 2y ago
Also to support this: Biological systems are often very simple systems but repeated a lot... The brain is a lot of neurons... Apparently having a neural net (even small) predicts the future better... And that increased survival.. To survive is to predict the future better than the other animal. Survival of the fittest.