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I’ve been watching the F 35 at the Baltimore Flyover this weekend. What an incredible machine. The agility and speed range that it can travel in the air is asto

I’ve been watching the F 35 at the Baltimore Flyover this weekend. What an incredible machine. The agility and speed range that it can travel in the air is astounding. Lucky pilots that get to fly this tech and dawn that helmet.

hoofhearted 2y ago
Same lol. Seeing this thing show off its tech in the flesh was incredible. The ability for it too scrub off speed from full tilt at 2000 mph is just beyond imaginable. If something is chasing you at full speed, and you can just hit the brakes mid air; suddenly the hunter becomes the prey lol
- nradov 2y ago
  The F-35 can't reach anywhere near 2000mph. It isn't optimized for speed.
- piva00 2y ago
  No US fighter jet in history can reach 2000 mph, the F-22 can get to a bit over mach 2, the F-35 can reach mach 1.6, neither is anywhere close to 2000 mph (mach ~3). The F-15 is probably the only American jet fighter to ever get close to 2000 mph by reaching mach 2.5.
MarkMarine 2y ago
I’d rather an A/C-130 or a A-10 flying over me every day of the week. I’m sure this is cool for the pilot in the seat, but who cares about that except them.
- nradov 2y ago
  Unfortunately the AC-130 and A-10 aren't survivable against any sort of serious aid defense system. They won't be flying over you if they get shot down by a SAM on the way there. This is the main reason the JSF program was started in 1993 and the problem has only become more severe since then.
  - MarkMarine 2y ago
    F-35 barely has a shot against modern layered Russian air defense. It’s not stealthy enough, counting on engaging beyond the range of air defense abilities to respond is iffy, considering the range of the AGM-88G and the Russian S-400 and one would assume the S-500 is better but who knows. The expense and rarity of the F-35 only exacerbates this problem, you can’t afford to dangle them in front of air defense so they turn their radar on, you could loose the plane. Better luck to be had by spotting air defense from satellites and launching cruise missiles or stealthy drones. I don’t see a place for the F-35. To fat to dog fight, to expensive, fast, and too limited in weapons stores for real CAS missions, too expensive to keep running in the numbers we would need for an actual great powers war. Barely made sense in 1993, it really really doesn’t make sense in the modern battlefield today.
    - nradov 2y ago
      In any major near-peer conflict our reconnaissance satellites will be the first casualties. Don't count on having those available to spot air defenses. Obviously an F-35 won't be sent in alone to perform CAS in a high-threat environment (unless the situation is really desperate). But it's at least somewhat survivable. Those legacy platforms aren't survivable at all if the adversary has even basic air defenses.
      - MarkMarine 2y ago
        Once the “destroying satellite” line was crossed (and associated Kessler syndrome destruction that would bring to the world) I can’t imagine a nuclear ICBM exchange wouldn’t be next. So I suppose none of those planes matter
    - SkyPuncher 2y ago
      Based on what’s happening in Ukraine, I suspect any airplane is basically just a lift platform for missiles. They’ll be fired off well behind the front where established air defenses can counter enemy air defenses. Stealth doesn’t seem as critical as speed.

hoofhearted 2y ago

Same lol. Seeing this thing show off its tech in the flesh was incredible. The ability for it too scrub off speed from full tilt at 2000 mph is just beyond imaginable. If something is chasing you at full speed, and you can just hit the brakes mid air; suddenly the hunter becomes the prey lol

nradov 2y ago
The F-35 can't reach anywhere near 2000mph. It isn't optimized for speed.
piva00 2y ago
No US fighter jet in history can reach 2000 mph, the F-22 can get to a bit over mach 2, the F-35 can reach mach 1.6, neither is anywhere close to 2000 mph (mach ~3). The F-15 is probably the only American jet fighter to ever get close to 2000 mph by reaching mach 2.5.

MarkMarine 2y ago

I’d rather an A/C-130 or a A-10 flying over me every day of the week. I’m sure this is cool for the pilot in the seat, but who cares about that except them.

nradov 2y ago
Unfortunately the AC-130 and A-10 aren't survivable against any sort of serious aid defense system. They won't be flying over you if they get shot down by a SAM on the way there. This is the main reason the JSF program was started in 1993 and the problem has only become more severe since then.
- MarkMarine 2y ago
  F-35 barely has a shot against modern layered Russian air defense. It’s not stealthy enough, counting on engaging beyond the range of air defense abilities to respond is iffy, considering the range of the AGM-88G and the Russian S-400 and one would assume the S-500 is better but who knows. The expense and rarity of the F-35 only exacerbates this problem, you can’t afford to dangle them in front of air defense so they turn their radar on, you could loose the plane. Better luck to be had by spotting air defense from satellites and launching cruise missiles or stealthy drones. I don’t see a place for the F-35. To fat to dog fight, to expensive, fast, and too limited in weapons stores for real CAS missions, too expensive to keep running in the numbers we would need for an actual great powers war. Barely made sense in 1993, it really really doesn’t make sense in the modern battlefield today.
  - nradov 2y ago
    In any major near-peer conflict our reconnaissance satellites will be the first casualties. Don't count on having those available to spot air defenses. Obviously an F-35 won't be sent in alone to perform CAS in a high-threat environment (unless the situation is really desperate). But it's at least somewhat survivable. Those legacy platforms aren't survivable at all if the adversary has even basic air defenses.
    - MarkMarine 2y ago
      Once the “destroying satellite” line was crossed (and associated Kessler syndrome destruction that would bring to the world) I can’t imagine a nuclear ICBM exchange wouldn’t be next. So I suppose none of those planes matter
  - SkyPuncher 2y ago
    Based on what’s happening in Ukraine, I suspect any airplane is basically just a lift platform for missiles. They’ll be fired off well behind the front where established air defenses can counter enemy air defenses. Stealth doesn’t seem as critical as speed.