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I mean, it's to be expected. Most driving infrastructure is designed for human eyes and brains, including flashing lights on police cars. If you redesign the dr

I mean, it's to be expected. Most driving infrastructure is designed for human eyes and brains, including flashing lights on police cars. If you redesign the driving system from scratch to work on silicon and not brain, you pretty much expect its failures to not look like the kind of failures we're used to. Even if it's objectively better, with a lower accident rate, lower fatality rate and so on, it will occasionally do something as stupid looking as "drive into a police car with flashing lights on". Which is why suitability decisions should not be made based on anecdotes.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> redesign the driving system from scratch to work on silicon Nobody proposed this. My Subaru can lane keep even in whiteout conditions (if there is a car in front of me) due to radar. I can’t do that. Tesla’s can’t do that. > it will occasionally do something as stupid looking as "drive into a police car with flashing lights on" Two sensors operating on different wavelengths can add more information than a single doubling of the first sensor.
- hughesjj 2y ago
  If I could have lidar eyes in addition to my normal ones you bet I'd go for it in the instance. Same with more variety of cones or thermal or any of the other cool sensory systems some other animals have. Tesla took out the non-visible detectors for cost savings alone. I don't get anyone who every believed otherwise.
- nradov 2y ago
  Huh? The Subaru EyeSight system uses only cameras. There is no radar. https://www.subaru.com/eyesight.html https://www.subaru.com/eyesight.html IME it works pretty well but cuts out in heavy precipitation because the cameras don't get a clear image.
  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    EyeSight is not the only lane-keeping component.
    - nradov 2y ago
      EyeSight is the only lane-keeping component on Subarus. Some models have radar sensors for blind spot or cross traffic warning, but those aren't used for lane keeping or forward collision prevention.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago

> redesign the driving system from scratch to work on silicon Nobody proposed this. My Subaru can lane keep even in whiteout conditions (if there is a car in front of me) due to radar. I can’t do that. Tesla’s can’t do that. > it will occasionally do something as stupid looking as "drive into a police car with flashing lights on" Two sensors operating on different wavelengths can add more information than a single doubling of the first sensor.

hughesjj 2y ago
If I could have lidar eyes in addition to my normal ones you bet I'd go for it in the instance. Same with more variety of cones or thermal or any of the other cool sensory systems some other animals have. Tesla took out the non-visible detectors for cost savings alone. I don't get anyone who every believed otherwise.
nradov 2y ago
Huh? The Subaru EyeSight system uses only cameras. There is no radar. https://www.subaru.com/eyesight.html https://www.subaru.com/eyesight.html IME it works pretty well but cuts out in heavy precipitation because the cameras don't get a clear image.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  EyeSight is not the only lane-keeping component.
  - nradov 2y ago
    EyeSight is the only lane-keeping component on Subarus. Some models have radar sensors for blind spot or cross traffic warning, but those aren't used for lane keeping or forward collision prevention.