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Generally, it's a distinction without a meaningful difference. The people you're complaining about don't really care whether or not it's government or civil ac

Generally, it's a distinction without a meaningful difference. The people you're complaining about don't really care whether or not it's government or civil action. They care that these people are getting away with murder and mass extortion and the only penalty they face is a meager chunk of the profits. I'm glad that some victims are getting some recompense, but frankly, justice has not really been served.

freejazz 2y ago
> Generally, it's a distinction without a meaningful difference. Seems like you might be as confused as they are! > The people you're complaining about don't really care whether or not it's government or civil action. They do, because it's always in the context of how the "gov't" levied a fine on some business, when it was actually a civil suit and there's no governmental action at all. > They care that these people are getting away with murder and mass extortion and the only penalty they face is a meager chunk of the profits. That's not what I'm talking about!
- swores 2y ago
  My feeling is that you're the one confused with what other people think and care about, not the other way around. I'll leave it there and agree to disagree, as you've been ignoring the points made by both of us who replied to you.
  - freejazz 2y ago
    > My feeling is that you're the one confused with what other people think and care about, not the other way around. You'd be wrong, then. >I'll leave it there and agree to disagree, as you've been ignoring the points made by both of us who replied to you. Well you both keep making up scenarios that aren't what I'm talking about.
    - swores 2y ago
      Might I suggest asking a friend who you trust to read the thread and share their thoughts with you - because I thought we just disagreed, and I didn't think much of your opinion, but saying that either of us have "made up scenarios" means you're just completely misunderstanding something we've said (giving you the benefit of the doubt that you didn't write that knowing it's nonsense in the hope that it saves you face).
      - freejazz 2y ago
        There's no face to save here and I don't particularly care. I made myself clear, the rest is on you. It's not as if I asked for clarification.
- diputsmonro 2y ago
  > That's not what I'm talking about! Okay, but when people are complaining about fines in this cases and similar cases, that is what they're talking about. You can take a fine detail and make an argument out of it, but it's not a point anyone else cares about.

freejazz 2y ago

> Generally, it's a distinction without a meaningful difference. Seems like you might be as confused as they are! > The people you're complaining about don't really care whether or not it's government or civil action. They do, because it's always in the context of how the "gov't" levied a fine on some business, when it was actually a civil suit and there's no governmental action at all. > They care that these people are getting away with murder and mass extortion and the only penalty they face is a meager chunk of the profits. That's not what I'm talking about!

swores 2y ago
My feeling is that you're the one confused with what other people think and care about, not the other way around. I'll leave it there and agree to disagree, as you've been ignoring the points made by both of us who replied to you.
- freejazz 2y ago
  > My feeling is that you're the one confused with what other people think and care about, not the other way around. You'd be wrong, then. >I'll leave it there and agree to disagree, as you've been ignoring the points made by both of us who replied to you. Well you both keep making up scenarios that aren't what I'm talking about.
  - swores 2y ago
    Might I suggest asking a friend who you trust to read the thread and share their thoughts with you - because I thought we just disagreed, and I didn't think much of your opinion, but saying that either of us have "made up scenarios" means you're just completely misunderstanding something we've said (giving you the benefit of the doubt that you didn't write that knowing it's nonsense in the hope that it saves you face).
    - freejazz 2y ago
      There's no face to save here and I don't particularly care. I made myself clear, the rest is on you. It's not as if I asked for clarification.
diputsmonro 2y ago
> That's not what I'm talking about! Okay, but when people are complaining about fines in this cases and similar cases, that is what they're talking about. You can take a fine detail and make an argument out of it, but it's not a point anyone else cares about.