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That's great, and they're probably on to a cool learning technique. But it's really just another case of smart parents with a smart kid thinking they reinvented

That's great, and they're probably on to a cool learning technique. But it's really just another case of smart parents with a smart kid thinking they reinvented education because the kid is smart.

ezconnect 2y ago
I have two kids and they have totally different skills of learning. My first kid learned numbers and arithmetic without teaching him by 3 years old. He discovered it himself using youtube. He learned to use the remote when he was 2 years old and knew which shows could teach him. My other kid is already 3 years old and he has problems understanding the concept of numbers and doesn't know how to use the remote control.
- drekipus 2y ago
  I'm curious, cause I have two young kids (< 3yo) , and the first is exceptionally smart (in our completely unbiased and nuanced opinion). When did you get the remote/ allow them to watch YouTube, in this example? Could it be related to how long they're been able to use it relative to their age? (IE: remote is relatively new to the older, but 90% of life of the younger). I have a hard time thinking that kids are just naturally "not clever" - I think any kid can be extremely clever if given the chance to explore and play and grow. (Parents to parents talk is always laden with judgement, so in not doing that. I'm just curious and seeking info for what I think about for my kids. I hope you don't feel like I'm judging you or anything. )
  - Aeolun 2y ago
    In my opinion, clever and motivated are two completely different things. Trying to get around the restrictions on video watching? Sure, he’ll spend an hour typing possible 4 number combinations and realize he’ll eventually get there. Having to make the effort to actually look at the letters, read them, and figure out the word? Nope, that’s too much effort. Besides, if he can read himself, how is he going to get papa to read to him. I dunno how kids work.
  - ezconnect 2y ago
    Youtube is youtube kids. The first one really have a curiosity to learn and explore. We were really surprised he got the idea of how to count almost unlimited numbers. We only taught him it just repeats and changes name once you reach the end of tens. He was also able to do arithmetic just by watching number blocks and learned multiplication by 3 yrs old just by explaining to him the concept of addition, subtraction and multiplication. The other guy is totally different he can memorize songs and retell stories on a book (he can't read) told to him. He likes to be babied don't even try to touch the remote for fear of losing what he is watching. They are both intelligent it just that the other guy is not interested in exploring by himself. I think language development was the key to early development because they could understand what you are explaining to them.
  - arrowsmith 2y ago
    > I have a hard time thinking that kids are just naturally "not clever" - I think any kid can be extremely clever if given the chance to explore and play and grow. What makes you think this? Plenty of adults are naturally not clever. Half of all adults are below average. Why would it be any different for kids?
    - drekipus 2y ago
      Because adults have training and experience that leads them into their situations. Ie: learned helplessness, Trauma, etc. Kids generally don't have that yet, unless they are in dire situations to start with, of course.

That's great, and they're probably on to a cool learning technique. But it's really just another case of smart parents with a smart kid thinking they reinvented education because the kid is smart.

ezconnect 2y ago

I have two kids and they have totally different skills of learning. My first kid learned numbers and arithmetic without teaching him by 3 years old. He discovered it himself using youtube. He learned to use the remote when he was 2 years old and knew which shows could teach him. My other kid is already 3 years old and he has problems understanding the concept of numbers and doesn't know how to use the remote control.

drekipus 2y ago
I'm curious, cause I have two young kids (< 3yo) , and the first is exceptionally smart (in our completely unbiased and nuanced opinion). When did you get the remote/ allow them to watch YouTube, in this example? Could it be related to how long they're been able to use it relative to their age? (IE: remote is relatively new to the older, but 90% of life of the younger). I have a hard time thinking that kids are just naturally "not clever" - I think any kid can be extremely clever if given the chance to explore and play and grow. (Parents to parents talk is always laden with judgement, so in not doing that. I'm just curious and seeking info for what I think about for my kids. I hope you don't feel like I'm judging you or anything. )
- Aeolun 2y ago
  In my opinion, clever and motivated are two completely different things. Trying to get around the restrictions on video watching? Sure, he’ll spend an hour typing possible 4 number combinations and realize he’ll eventually get there. Having to make the effort to actually look at the letters, read them, and figure out the word? Nope, that’s too much effort. Besides, if he can read himself, how is he going to get papa to read to him. I dunno how kids work.
- ezconnect 2y ago
  Youtube is youtube kids. The first one really have a curiosity to learn and explore. We were really surprised he got the idea of how to count almost unlimited numbers. We only taught him it just repeats and changes name once you reach the end of tens. He was also able to do arithmetic just by watching number blocks and learned multiplication by 3 yrs old just by explaining to him the concept of addition, subtraction and multiplication. The other guy is totally different he can memorize songs and retell stories on a book (he can't read) told to him. He likes to be babied don't even try to touch the remote for fear of losing what he is watching. They are both intelligent it just that the other guy is not interested in exploring by himself. I think language development was the key to early development because they could understand what you are explaining to them.
- arrowsmith 2y ago
  > I have a hard time thinking that kids are just naturally "not clever" - I think any kid can be extremely clever if given the chance to explore and play and grow. What makes you think this? Plenty of adults are naturally not clever. Half of all adults are below average. Why would it be any different for kids?
  - drekipus 2y ago
    Because adults have training and experience that leads them into their situations. Ie: learned helplessness, Trauma, etc. Kids generally don't have that yet, unless they are in dire situations to start with, of course.