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I really value youtube, but as long as google owns it I will never pay, never ever. Nor will I watch ads. But if youtube broke off one day and became independen

I really value youtube, but as long as google owns it I will never pay, never ever. Nor will I watch ads. But if youtube broke off one day and became independent like paypal did, i would gladly pay for it.

edm0nd 2y ago
Pro tip, if you have a VPN provider and set it to Ukraine, YouTube Premium comes out to only ~$2.7x/month. Makes it way more enjoyable for a fraction of the price. Once you buy it, you dont have to keep your VPN or anything, it will always rebill at the $2.xx price each month.
- zelphirkalt 2y ago
  If enough people do that, they will try counter measures.
- treflop 2y ago
  For how much I watch and enjoy YouTube, paying full price is absolute worth it.
  - verdverm 2y ago
    The family plan is a good deal too
- Loughla 2y ago
  That's an awesome note. Thank you.
- bdlowery 2y ago
  Don’t do this. Google will ban your account. My friends have done this before in video games and have gotten their accounts perma banned months / years later.
- deleted 2y ago
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- frizlab 2y ago
  For me it’s not about the money. It’s just that I will not (willingly) give a single cent to google. Ever.
- thatguy0900 2y ago
  If you're using vpns, some countries like Albania simply don't get ads delivered at all
mustyoshi 2y ago
Clearly you don't value it if you don't want to compensate them or the creators for the content.
- frizlab 2y ago
  It is possible to value a service and still loathe the company providing it.
- jodybruchon 2y ago
  How the creators make money is neither my problem nor my responsibility.
leptons 2y ago
>I really value youtube, but as long as google owns it I will never pay, never ever. I really value youtube, and I do pay for premium. It's not expensive. We use youtube far more than any other streaming service, and it costs less than all the others.
judge2020 2y ago
Because Google <insert reason here>, you think you are entitled to accessing it for free?
- jodybruchon 2y ago
  They make it freely available, so yes, as a matter of fact, I am. I also have total control of how my computer resources are used. Ad blocking is always ethical.
bdcravens 2y ago
Paypal didn't "break off": it was spun off by eBay. It's not like a division can secede and declare independence.
- judge2020 2y ago
  Not with that attitude.
jarjoura 2y ago
I'm interpreting your comment as you're using ad blockers and also not paying for a subscription. If that's the case, it's probably true that robbing YouTube of the revenue to cover their R&D and data center costs is covered in whatever insurance and investment risks they manage. However, also robbing the content creators you're enjoying of the revenue they need to fund their content, is definitely in some unethical grey area. Still true, even if the creator makes only a fraction of their total revenue through ad sense.
- zolbrek 2y ago
  There's no violence involved, it can't be robbery.
- tobz1000 2y ago
  Or you can adblock and donate on Patreon etc. to your favourite channels. Not every channel you watch will benefit, but a much higher percentage of your money goes to creators, who generally get a less than fair deal from platform holders. Same goes for buying music on Bandcamp + pirating, versus a music streaming subscription.
- deleted 2y ago
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- manuelmoreale 2y ago
  > However, also robbing the content creators you're enjoying of the revenue they need to fund their content, is definitely in some unethical grey area. I’m curious what’s your intuition about the opposite situation. If I’m paying for YouTube and I’m supposed to get an AD free experience but a creator has baked in ad read for their sponsor, is the creator then in the wrong?
- Bancakes 2y ago
  If I don’t click ads and purchase products, it doesn’t matter whether I have them or not. I’m not robbing anyone since I don’t click on ads anyway. I don’t generate people revenue. I’m not “in commerce”
- jodybruchon 2y ago
mook 2y ago
I don't think I'm likely to pay for YouTube either, but for a slightly different reason: I'm afraid that if there are ever any account issues my whole Google account would be banned. I notice that I've been watching less as they ramp up advertisements. Yep, a confusing case where a monopoly position actually managed to hurt the company…

edm0nd 2y ago

Pro tip, if you have a VPN provider and set it to Ukraine, YouTube Premium comes out to only ~$2.7x/month. Makes it way more enjoyable for a fraction of the price. Once you buy it, you dont have to keep your VPN or anything, it will always rebill at the $2.xx price each month.

zelphirkalt 2y ago
If enough people do that, they will try counter measures.
treflop 2y ago
For how much I watch and enjoy YouTube, paying full price is absolute worth it.
- verdverm 2y ago
  The family plan is a good deal too
Loughla 2y ago
That's an awesome note. Thank you.
bdlowery 2y ago
Don’t do this. Google will ban your account. My friends have done this before in video games and have gotten their accounts perma banned months / years later.
deleted 2y ago
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frizlab 2y ago
For me it’s not about the money. It’s just that I will not (willingly) give a single cent to google. Ever.
thatguy0900 2y ago
If you're using vpns, some countries like Albania simply don't get ads delivered at all

mustyoshi 2y ago

Clearly you don't value it if you don't want to compensate them or the creators for the content.

frizlab 2y ago
It is possible to value a service and still loathe the company providing it.
jodybruchon 2y ago
How the creators make money is neither my problem nor my responsibility.

leptons 2y ago

>I really value youtube, but as long as google owns it I will never pay, never ever. I really value youtube, and I do pay for premium. It's not expensive. We use youtube far more than any other streaming service, and it costs less than all the others.

judge2020 2y ago

Because Google <insert reason here>, you think you are entitled to accessing it for free?

jodybruchon 2y ago
They make it freely available, so yes, as a matter of fact, I am. I also have total control of how my computer resources are used. Ad blocking is always ethical.

bdcravens 2y ago

Paypal didn't "break off": it was spun off by eBay. It's not like a division can secede and declare independence.

judge2020 2y ago
Not with that attitude.

jarjoura 2y ago

I'm interpreting your comment as you're using ad blockers and also not paying for a subscription. If that's the case, it's probably true that robbing YouTube of the revenue to cover their R&D and data center costs is covered in whatever insurance and investment risks they manage. However, also robbing the content creators you're enjoying of the revenue they need to fund their content, is definitely in some unethical grey area. Still true, even if the creator makes only a fraction of their total revenue through ad sense.

zolbrek 2y ago
There's no violence involved, it can't be robbery.
tobz1000 2y ago
Or you can adblock and donate on Patreon etc. to your favourite channels. Not every channel you watch will benefit, but a much higher percentage of your money goes to creators, who generally get a less than fair deal from platform holders. Same goes for buying music on Bandcamp + pirating, versus a music streaming subscription.
deleted 2y ago
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manuelmoreale 2y ago
> However, also robbing the content creators you're enjoying of the revenue they need to fund their content, is definitely in some unethical grey area. I’m curious what’s your intuition about the opposite situation. If I’m paying for YouTube and I’m supposed to get an AD free experience but a creator has baked in ad read for their sponsor, is the creator then in the wrong?
Bancakes 2y ago
If I don’t click ads and purchase products, it doesn’t matter whether I have them or not. I’m not robbing anyone since I don’t click on ads anyway. I don’t generate people revenue. I’m not “in commerce”
jodybruchon 2y ago

mook 2y ago

I don't think I'm likely to pay for YouTube either, but for a slightly different reason: I'm afraid that if there are ever any account issues my whole Google account would be banned. I notice that I've been watching less as they ramp up advertisements. Yep, a confusing case where a monopoly position actually managed to hurt the company…