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They're also paying with free user data (I know apple has invested a lot in privacy etc. here, but the bodies of your queries still end up going through OpenAI)
by Retr0id 2y ago
They're also paying with free user data (I know apple has invested a lot in privacy etc. here, but the bodies of your queries still end up going through OpenAI)
- gruez 2y ago>but the body of your queries still ends up going through OpenAI depends on whether there's an opt-out/agreement to not use the data for training. Even the free version of chatgpt has an opt-out for training data, although they still say they're going to retain the data for 30 days.
- asadotzler 2y agotraining is only one of many uses for the data.
- diggan 2y agoI think I remember from the first WWDC presentation that Apple made some agreement with OpenAI that forbids them from using the queries for training and anything else. I'm not 100% sure if I remember it correctly though, maybe someone else can give a more confident recall of it.
- Retr0id 2y agoEven if it's not used explicitly for "training", it's still valuable for model evaluation, A/B testing, etc. (e.g. "do users engage more with model A or B?") And to be clear, I'm not accusing Apple or OpenAI of being "evil" here wrt. handing user data, I just think it's a potential factor in their partnership.
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- weikju 2y ago> , but the bodies of your queries still end up going through OpenAI Only the queries that Siri deems to need extra help and only after user approval..
- angryasian 2y agoand we know how well users opt-out of things like this or understand / care enough to opt-out / opt-in
- weikju 2y agoSure, they generally just tap/click whatever they always tap click to get the modal out of the way. In either case, data is sent to OpenAI only in specific contexts, not all the time from all the AI interactions in the OS, which was the distinction I was making.
- amelius 2y agoWill Apple save the data, so that they can use it to build their own AI systems?