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Freenet 2024 – a drop-in decentralized replacement for the web [video]
- kstrauser 2y agoThe last time I played with Freenet, it was glacially slow. Like, it took several minutes to load a basic page. What's the user experience like today?
- doublerabbit 2y agoBetter-but still slow. It gets faster overtime as you build trust and more peers connect to you. But it is tolerable on startup for a "I'm bored, lets look at crazy" session.
- ilaksh 2y agoThe new Freenet is different from the old Freenet. And people will not necessarily know which one you are talking about.
- sanity 2y agoNote that the linked video is about a complete redesign of Freenet, see https://freenet.org/faq#faq-3 https://freenet.org/faq#faq-3
- ericrosedev 2y agoI’m still convinced the Internet Computer has a real chance at being the replacement for AWS et al
- beefnugs 2y agoI read much about this project. It seems like really smart people, really good work. They have some weird feeling marketing? I don't know what to think about it, maybe its a "technical people doing marketing" problem? I also don't know how to trust the "shared/cooperative multiparty cryptography" thing? I don't know of anyone else doing the same thing, some underlying feeling I have that it can't really work can it?
- sanity 2y agoRight now we're mostly trying to talk to software developers about building on Freenet or contributing to the project. Mass market comes later.
- kristopolous 2y agoSo how does freenet prevent the spreading of slander, libel, or otherwise abusive content? I understand not many places have an answer for this question, I'm wondering if Freenet does yet. I'm asking this in good faith. I actually like Freenet.
- generalizations 2y agoI'd say that's the wrong priority to focus on in a project like this.
- llm_trw 2y agoUnfortunately until god comes down from heaven we have no way of figuring out what is slander, libel, or otherwise abusive content.
- dreamworld 2y agoThat's called moderation, dude! :P I think some moderation is important so things don't get out of control.
- llm_trw 2y agoSo do the Imans in Iran. Least they stop hanging homosexuals on cranes.
- viraptor 2y agoYou're mixing moderation with punishment outside of the platform. Those things are extremely different.
- sph 2y agoNo, they are exactly the same, but taken to their extreme, yet inherent evolution. Putting you in jail or hanging you for "illegal speech" are just two degrees of punishment for violating the laws of the land, as it were. The degree of punishment is just a cultural thing. The only question is one: are you free, or not? No one is forcing you to use free-speech platforms, but to criticize them you need to understand what freedom means in the first place.
- hiq 2y agoFrom https://freenet.org/faq#faq-2 https://freenet.org/faq#faq-2: > In 2019, Ian began work on a successor to the original Freenet, which was internally known as "Locutus." This project, a redesign from the ground up, incorporated lessons learned from the original Freenet's development and operation, and adapted to today's challenges. In March 2023, the original version of Freenet was separated into its own project, and what was known as "Locutus" was officially branded as "Freenet." And https://freenet.org/faq#faq-3 https://freenet.org/faq#faq-3: > Anonymity: While the previous version was designed with a focus on anonymity, the current version does not offer built-in anonymity but allows for a choice of anonymizing systems to be layered on top. So what has been known as Freenet and the new Freenet are quite different apparently.
- dccoolgai 2y agoIt was not the first, either: See "Cleveland Freenet" https://cfn.tangledhelix.com/ https://cfn.tangledhelix.com/
- evbogue 2y agoLocutus as in borged Picard?
- ravenstine 2y agoMaybe, though it could also be that locutus is a Latin word that essentially means "speak". Adds another layer of meaning to its use in Star Trek. :D
- noman-land 2y agoIt makes sense because the Borg chose Picard as a representative for all humankind.
- evbogue 2y agoand there are some reasons to believe the borg were running some kind of distributed system that was weighting certain nodes at various times. Perhaps a future fork of freenet will become borgnet? Seems futile, but resistance often can be.
- gman83 2y agoSo apparently this project isn't the old Freenet, that's been renamed to "Hyphanet" - https://www.hyphanet.org https://www.hyphanet.org. The same team started a new project, originally called "Locutus" and then renamed that to Freenet. A bit confusing. I remember hearing about Freenet like 20 years ago, I think on Kuro5hin, kind of amazing it's still going.
- ramses0 2y agoHi Rusty! :-)
- sanity 2y agoThe rebrand/redesign is explained here: https://freenet.org/faq#faq-4 https://freenet.org/faq#faq-4
- ArneBab 2y agoIt’s not the same team. The Freenet Team is developing Hyphanet now. Ian had not been active in Freenet development for over a decade (he managed the non-profit but didn’t interact with actual development) before he started Locutus. He initially started Freenet in 1999, but had long been absent. The renaming was done against the explicit objection of the core development team. For further background, see the links in https://www.hyphanet.org/freenet-renamed-to-hyphanet.html https://www.hyphanet.org/freenet-renamed-to-hyphanet.html Hyphanet is the original Freenet and the next release is just blocked by finalizing the new signing setup for the Windows installer. See https://github.com/hyphanet/fred/releases/tag/build01498 https://github.com/hyphanet/fred/releases/tag/build01498
- greyface- 2y agoRecent, similar talk: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40469711 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40469711
- sanity 2y agoThat video is from last September, this video is intended to compliment it. Both are worth watching, there shouldn't be too much overlap.
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