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> But even that open source model needs to have basic ethical protections, or else I'll have nothing to do with it. If you don't understand that the eleven fre

> But even that open source model needs to have basic ethical protections, or else I'll have nothing to do with it. If you don't understand that the eleven freedoms are "basic ethical protections" you have already failed your responsibilities. https://elevenfreedoms.org/ https://elevenfreedoms.org/

barfbagginus 2y ago
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- dang 2y ago
  You've been breaking the site guidelines so frequently and so egregiously that I've banned the account. If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future. They're here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
barfbagginus 2y ago
I have read the eleven freedoms. I refuse freedom 9 - the obligation for systems I build to be independent of my personal and ethical goals. I won't build those systems. The systems I build will all have to be for the benefit of humanity and the workers, and opposing capitalism. On top of that it will need to be compatible with a harm reduction ethic. If you won't grant me the right to build systems that I think will help others do good in the world, then I will refuse to write open source code. You could jail me, you can beat me, you can put a gun in my face, and I still won't write any code. Virtually all the codes I write are open source. I refuse to ever again write a single line of proprietary code for a boss again. All the codes I write are also ideological in nature, reflecting my desires for the world and my desires to help people live better lives. I need to retain ideological control of my code. I believe all the other 11 freedoms are sound. How do you feel about modifying freedom 9 to be more compatible with professional codes of ethics and ethics of community safety and harm reduction?
- oremolten 2y ago
  But again, this makes YOU the arbiter of truth for "harm" who made you the God of ethics or harm? I declare ANY word is HARM to me, are you going to reduce the harm by deleting your models or code base?

barfbagginus 2y ago

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dang 2y ago
You've been breaking the site guidelines so frequently and so egregiously that I've banned the account. If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future. They're here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

barfbagginus 2y ago

I have read the eleven freedoms. I refuse freedom 9 - the obligation for systems I build to be independent of my personal and ethical goals. I won't build those systems. The systems I build will all have to be for the benefit of humanity and the workers, and opposing capitalism. On top of that it will need to be compatible with a harm reduction ethic. If you won't grant me the right to build systems that I think will help others do good in the world, then I will refuse to write open source code. You could jail me, you can beat me, you can put a gun in my face, and I still won't write any code. Virtually all the codes I write are open source. I refuse to ever again write a single line of proprietary code for a boss again. All the codes I write are also ideological in nature, reflecting my desires for the world and my desires to help people live better lives. I need to retain ideological control of my code. I believe all the other 11 freedoms are sound. How do you feel about modifying freedom 9 to be more compatible with professional codes of ethics and ethics of community safety and harm reduction?

oremolten 2y ago
But again, this makes YOU the arbiter of truth for "harm" who made you the God of ethics or harm? I declare ANY word is HARM to me, are you going to reduce the harm by deleting your models or code base?