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Titan submersible sound detection system vibes.

by guax 2y ago

nathan_compton 2y ago
Exactly what I thought.
cjbgkagh 2y ago
I'm not sure how many people know about their 'sound detection system'. Carbon fiber is a fickle beast and is prone to such failures so that alone worried me, but it was incredible for me to learn that they expected some sort of early warning from cracking.
- ladams 2y ago
  Do you have a link? Google just gives results about the US Navy detection of the implosion…
  - azornathogron 2y ago
    https://www.businessinsider.com/oceangate-2020-boasted-incredible-accuracy-detecting-titanic-sub-hull-flaws-2023-7 https://www.businessinsider.com/oceangate-2020-boasted-incre...
  - lucianbr 2y ago
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LcGrLnzYuU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LcGrLnzYuU As I remember he talks about the sound detection thing.
  - NortySpock 2y ago
    https://www.wired.com/story/titan-submersible-disaster-inside-story-oceangate-files/ https://www.wired.com/story/titan-submersible-disaster-insid... Recent one-year-lookback story by Wired.
- raverbashing 2y ago
  Well there were probably some early warning signs The problem is that warning sign comes at around 10ms or less before the actual disaster
  - rvnx 2y ago
    If it would be a Tesla, just enough time for the auto-pilot to disengage and claim it was the fault of the user.
    - ETH_start 2y ago
      Tesla autopilot is not supposed to be unmonitored, so any accidents under its control are entirely the fault of the driver. If a driver disengaged 0.1s before impact, they were derelict in their driving.
      - abduhl 2y ago
        OSHA has a nice pamphlet regarding hazard identification and hazard controls. The least effective method of protecting workers is to put the risk on the worker to protect themselves. Your view has a similar vibe to "well they weren't wearing their hard hat and so it's their fault," a view that has been rejected across the board for safety in favor of the view that even letting the situation get to that point is a failure. https://www.osha.gov/sites/default/files/Hierarchy_of_Controls_02.01.23_form_508_2.pdf https://www.osha.gov/sites/default/files/Hierarchy_of_Contro...
        ETH_start 2y ago
        Driver control IS making the driver responsible, by definition. Tesla is legally required to put the driver in control. This is a driver assist program. There is no way such a program, that is subordinate to the driver and depends on the driver being in control, can protect the driver from not doing their part, and driving.
        sjsdaiuasgdia 2y ago
hliyan 2y ago
What does "vibes" mean here? Are you saying that this is a comparable level of negligence, or that it simply personally reminds you of the former case, and nothing else? There are better words available than "vibes".
- guax 2y ago
  I'm not vibing with your distaste for the vibes.

Titan submersible sound detection system vibes.

by guax 2y ago

Titan submersible sound detection system vibes.

nathan_compton 2y ago

Exactly what I thought.

cjbgkagh 2y ago

I'm not sure how many people know about their 'sound detection system'. Carbon fiber is a fickle beast and is prone to such failures so that alone worried me, but it was incredible for me to learn that they expected some sort of early warning from cracking.

ladams 2y ago
Do you have a link? Google just gives results about the US Navy detection of the implosion…
- azornathogron 2y ago
  https://www.businessinsider.com/oceangate-2020-boasted-incredible-accuracy-detecting-titanic-sub-hull-flaws-2023-7 https://www.businessinsider.com/oceangate-2020-boasted-incre...
- lucianbr 2y ago
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LcGrLnzYuU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LcGrLnzYuU As I remember he talks about the sound detection thing.
- NortySpock 2y ago
  https://www.wired.com/story/titan-submersible-disaster-inside-story-oceangate-files/ https://www.wired.com/story/titan-submersible-disaster-insid... Recent one-year-lookback story by Wired.
raverbashing 2y ago
Well there were probably some early warning signs The problem is that warning sign comes at around 10ms or less before the actual disaster
- rvnx 2y ago
  If it would be a Tesla, just enough time for the auto-pilot to disengage and claim it was the fault of the user.
  - ETH_start 2y ago
    Tesla autopilot is not supposed to be unmonitored, so any accidents under its control are entirely the fault of the driver. If a driver disengaged 0.1s before impact, they were derelict in their driving.
    - abduhl 2y ago
      OSHA has a nice pamphlet regarding hazard identification and hazard controls. The least effective method of protecting workers is to put the risk on the worker to protect themselves. Your view has a similar vibe to "well they weren't wearing their hard hat and so it's their fault," a view that has been rejected across the board for safety in favor of the view that even letting the situation get to that point is a failure. https://www.osha.gov/sites/default/files/Hierarchy_of_Controls_02.01.23_form_508_2.pdf https://www.osha.gov/sites/default/files/Hierarchy_of_Contro...
      - ETH_start 2y ago
        Driver control IS making the driver responsible, by definition. Tesla is legally required to put the driver in control. This is a driver assist program. There is no way such a program, that is subordinate to the driver and depends on the driver being in control, can protect the driver from not doing their part, and driving.
        sjsdaiuasgdia 2y ago

hliyan 2y ago

What does "vibes" mean here? Are you saying that this is a comparable level of negligence, or that it simply personally reminds you of the former case, and nothing else? There are better words available than "vibes".

guax 2y ago
I'm not vibing with your distaste for the vibes.