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Show HN: I 'integrated' ChatGPT in iOS-iPadOS-macOS with out official support

wielebny 2y ago
Tools to do this are and have been available for many months. The difficulty is in scale. Enabling every smartphone owner to use GenAI, especially using voice commands requires hardware resources several orders of magnitude greater than what OpenAI is currently burning through. The LLM-powered Siri/Alexa/Google Assistant was a matter of infrastructure investment. With the recent Apple's announcement, it's only a matter of time with Google and others following through.
- giuliomagnifico 2y ago
  > Tools to do this are and have been available for many months. Yes, indeed im also using this “workaround” since some months ago (3/4?) >The difficulty is in scale. Enabling every smartphone owner to use GenAI, especially using voice commands requires hardware resources several orders of magnitude greater than what OpenAI is currently burning through. >The LLM-powered Siri/Alexa/Google Assistant was a matter of infrastructure investment. >With the recent Apple's announcement, it's only a matter of time with Google and others following through. I absolutely agree, but these things need to be handled by Apple/ChatGPT or those who maintain the servers. For me, it's enough that it works now. Hoping the official integration doesn't come too late...
  - Jtsummers 2y ago
    > Hoping the official integration doesn't come too late... Too late for what?
    - giuliomagnifico 2y ago
      For my impatience I think :)
1231232131231 2y ago
The iOS copy/paste/other actions menu is so unintuitive. 4 taps to share?
- giancarlostoro 2y ago
  As an iPhone user, I really don't understand Apple sometimes. I want to love their work, then dumb things like this happen. There's other pet peeves I have, but overall, I don't see myself ever going back to Android. You can probably say the same of any other software company.
  - b33j0r 2y ago
    I had some feedback, then I read this. Yep, it’s neat! Hey. If you want to take it further, add the feature no one asked for. That’s the name of the game.
- giuliomagnifico 2y ago
  Yes, unfortunately. You can also use the swipe gesture over the pop-up, even though the overall system is still a bit tricky.
- planb 2y ago
  Text selection and editing on iOS is broken in general. Trying to replace just a part of a URL in the Safari address bar with the clipboard contents is nearly impossible, even if you know that long pressing space moves the cursor.
jasonlotito 2y ago
FYI: Didn't realize your first gif was animated. It doesn't loop. Should probably fix that.
- giuliomagnifico 2y ago
  Oh my mistake, thanks, I’ll fix it as soon as I can use a Mac. Edit: fixed, now it should loops properly :) thanks again!
amelius 2y ago
Seems non-intuitive to have to select "Share".
wlesieutre 2y ago
In a similar vein, check out Federico Viticci's S-GPT shortcut for ChatGPT integration with a bunch of system features rather than text editing https://www.macstories.net/ios/introducing-s-gpt-a-shortcut-to-connect-openais-chatgpt-with-native-features-of-apples-operating-systems/ https://www.macstories.net/ios/introducing-s-gpt-a-shortcut-... It handles requests like "I want a playlist with the top 15 songs by the members of boygenius" and turns it into a playlist in Music
- r00fus 2y ago
  I’m hoping the Apple version would do things like “make me a playlist of new artists based on songs I use to work out” or “play songs from my library that I like but haven’t heard in the past 6 months”
- giuliomagnifico 2y ago
  To be honest, this method appears more complicated and has more friction than my already tricky approach. By the way, it’s better in some aspects because it can perform a lot more functions than text actions.
thih9 2y ago
Apple's official support promises strong focus on privacy. Would it offer any benefits over this solution? Or would they be equal from the privacy point of view? I didn't read the announcements and I don't know the details, if anyone knows more please explain.
- cqqxo4zV46cp 2y ago
  Apple doesn’t farm all its GenAI out to OpenAI, not even all its server-side stuff. So, yes.
  - thih9 2y ago
    For the portion that it does farm out, is that tied to an unique user identifier or is that session based?
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rcarmo 2y ago
Did a bunch of these for the Mac back in February, and have since rebuilt many for iOS to work exactly like that: https://taoofmac.com/space/notes/2024/02/22/1900 https://taoofmac.com/space/notes/2024/02/22/1900
tamimio 2y ago
I have been doing something similar for months. I share the text with an automation shortcut that adds a prompt to it and opens Copilot for me. I just paste the text there manually since it’s not possible to paste with shortcuts. It works great and it’s totally free! I just used it to proofread this reply too.

Tools to do this are and have been available for many months. The difficulty is in scale. Enabling every smartphone owner to use GenAI, especially using voice commands requires hardware resources several orders of magnitude greater than what OpenAI is currently burning through. The LLM-powered Siri/Alexa/Google Assistant was a matter of infrastructure investment. With the recent Apple's announcement, it's only a matter of time with Google and others following through.

giuliomagnifico 2y ago
> Tools to do this are and have been available for many months. Yes, indeed im also using this “workaround” since some months ago (3/4?) >The difficulty is in scale. Enabling every smartphone owner to use GenAI, especially using voice commands requires hardware resources several orders of magnitude greater than what OpenAI is currently burning through. >The LLM-powered Siri/Alexa/Google Assistant was a matter of infrastructure investment. >With the recent Apple's announcement, it's only a matter of time with Google and others following through. I absolutely agree, but these things need to be handled by Apple/ChatGPT or those who maintain the servers. For me, it's enough that it works now. Hoping the official integration doesn't come too late...
- Jtsummers 2y ago
  > Hoping the official integration doesn't come too late... Too late for what?
  - giuliomagnifico 2y ago
    For my impatience I think :)

1231232131231 2y ago

The iOS copy/paste/other actions menu is so unintuitive. 4 taps to share?

giancarlostoro 2y ago
As an iPhone user, I really don't understand Apple sometimes. I want to love their work, then dumb things like this happen. There's other pet peeves I have, but overall, I don't see myself ever going back to Android. You can probably say the same of any other software company.
- b33j0r 2y ago
  I had some feedback, then I read this. Yep, it’s neat! Hey. If you want to take it further, add the feature no one asked for. That’s the name of the game.
giuliomagnifico 2y ago
Yes, unfortunately. You can also use the swipe gesture over the pop-up, even though the overall system is still a bit tricky.
planb 2y ago
Text selection and editing on iOS is broken in general. Trying to replace just a part of a URL in the Safari address bar with the clipboard contents is nearly impossible, even if you know that long pressing space moves the cursor.

jasonlotito 2y ago

FYI: Didn't realize your first gif was animated. It doesn't loop. Should probably fix that.

giuliomagnifico 2y ago
Oh my mistake, thanks, I’ll fix it as soon as I can use a Mac. Edit: fixed, now it should loops properly :) thanks again!

amelius 2y ago

Seems non-intuitive to have to select "Share".

wlesieutre 2y ago

In a similar vein, check out Federico Viticci's S-GPT shortcut for ChatGPT integration with a bunch of system features rather than text editing https://www.macstories.net/ios/introducing-s-gpt-a-shortcut-to-connect-openais-chatgpt-with-native-features-of-apples-operating-systems/ https://www.macstories.net/ios/introducing-s-gpt-a-shortcut-... It handles requests like "I want a playlist with the top 15 songs by the members of boygenius" and turns it into a playlist in Music

r00fus 2y ago
I’m hoping the Apple version would do things like “make me a playlist of new artists based on songs I use to work out” or “play songs from my library that I like but haven’t heard in the past 6 months”
giuliomagnifico 2y ago
To be honest, this method appears more complicated and has more friction than my already tricky approach. By the way, it’s better in some aspects because it can perform a lot more functions than text actions.

thih9 2y ago

Apple's official support promises strong focus on privacy. Would it offer any benefits over this solution? Or would they be equal from the privacy point of view? I didn't read the announcements and I don't know the details, if anyone knows more please explain.

cqqxo4zV46cp 2y ago
Apple doesn’t farm all its GenAI out to OpenAI, not even all its server-side stuff. So, yes.
- thih9 2y ago
  For the portion that it does farm out, is that tied to an unique user identifier or is that session based?

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rcarmo 2y ago

Did a bunch of these for the Mac back in February, and have since rebuilt many for iOS to work exactly like that: https://taoofmac.com/space/notes/2024/02/22/1900 https://taoofmac.com/space/notes/2024/02/22/1900

tamimio 2y ago

I have been doing something similar for months. I share the text with an automation shortcut that adds a prompt to it and opens Copilot for me. I just paste the text there manually since it’s not possible to paste with shortcuts. It works great and it’s totally free! I just used it to proofread this reply too.