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This makes no sense, it would be more akin to buying a meal and only being allowed to eat noodles with the left side of the mouth. You paid for X amount of dat

This makes no sense, it would be more akin to buying a meal and only being allowed to eat noodles with the left side of the mouth. You paid for X amount of data, why does it matter if you are using it for a work VPN or browsing HN?

immibis 2y ago
Except you didn't? You paid for all-you-can-eat-on-a-phone, and 5 GB extra. So it's a dormitory with unlimited dining hall, but you can only take one plate a week outside of the dining hall. For the provider, the point of this design is that there's only a certain amount that people are willing to download on a phone or eat in a dining hall. For the consumer, they don't have to count their data or their servings as long as they follow a simple rule - they get predictable billing.
- Dylan16807 2y ago
  > So it's a dormitory with unlimited dining hall, but you can only take one plate a week outside of the dining hall. You see how that's bad, right? My phone service, a utility, should not be micromanaging me.
  - doubleg72 2y ago
    They aren’t, they manage their spectrum you are agreeing to use.
    - Dylan16807 2y ago
      They should not even know when I'm tethering.
      - immibis 2y ago
        That's one point of view, but you just banned unlimited-on-your-phone plans that a lot of people presumably enjoyed. If they change them to simple unlimited plans, you'll be popular. If they only offer limited plans now, you'll be unpopular.
        Dylan16807 2y ago
        They would never get rid of unlimited. It's marketing gold.
        happymellon 2y ago
        No one banned unlimited, you suggested. We have a number of mobile services in the UK who explicitly offer routers with WiFi slots for replacing your home broadband with unlimited SIMs. I have used them in the past to replace the wired internet when there has been line maintenance that took out the broadband for a couple of days. 4G alone can get you a nice stable 100Mb/s. You seem to be defending a shitty deal that happening in North America, without any clear reason.

immibis 2y ago

Except you didn't? You paid for all-you-can-eat-on-a-phone, and 5 GB extra. So it's a dormitory with unlimited dining hall, but you can only take one plate a week outside of the dining hall. For the provider, the point of this design is that there's only a certain amount that people are willing to download on a phone or eat in a dining hall. For the consumer, they don't have to count their data or their servings as long as they follow a simple rule - they get predictable billing.

Dylan16807 2y ago
> So it's a dormitory with unlimited dining hall, but you can only take one plate a week outside of the dining hall. You see how that's bad, right? My phone service, a utility, should not be micromanaging me.
- doubleg72 2y ago
  They aren’t, they manage their spectrum you are agreeing to use.
  - Dylan16807 2y ago
    They should not even know when I'm tethering.
    - immibis 2y ago
      That's one point of view, but you just banned unlimited-on-your-phone plans that a lot of people presumably enjoyed. If they change them to simple unlimited plans, you'll be popular. If they only offer limited plans now, you'll be unpopular.
      - Dylan16807 2y ago
        They would never get rid of unlimited. It's marketing gold.
      - happymellon 2y ago
        No one banned unlimited, you suggested. We have a number of mobile services in the UK who explicitly offer routers with WiFi slots for replacing your home broadband with unlimited SIMs. I have used them in the past to replace the wired internet when there has been line maintenance that took out the broadband for a couple of days. 4G alone can get you a nice stable 100Mb/s. You seem to be defending a shitty deal that happening in North America, without any clear reason.