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Yes, the motor should have thermal overloads and/or limit switches connected to it, but this is Hyundai we’re talking about. I’m not surprised they shaved a fe

Yes, the motor should have thermal overloads and/or limit switches connected to it, but this is Hyundai we’re talking about. I’m not surprised they shaved a few cents off the BoM after they caused a car theft epidemic by saving a few bucks by leaving out a simple anti-theft device that every other manufacturer includes. Why anyone buys a Hyundai/Kia after the last couple years is beyond me, I’ll never own one.

epolanski 2y ago
Because Kia/Hyundai makes very good and reliable cars and those are facts backed by lots of data. The only brands that are more reliable are all in Japan, with 3 exceptions (Mini, BMW, Porsche) being German.
- orwin 2y ago
  Reliability should be looked at by model, not by brand, because if you buy a BMW in the US for reliability, you may have a bad time considering the most available models there. And I will always go for repairability, that's why I will advise to only buy models with easy electronics and reliable mechanics so that the only shit that can fail me are the axle (which is cheap to repair) and the motor (which isn't). And preferably look at how much a second hand car with the same model is worth after 2 years, that tell a lot about a model reliability.
- jordanb 2y ago
  These cars are notorious for detonating engines between a problem with sand being left in the block from the casting to direct-only injection causing premature valve failure because egr crud doesn't get cleaned off.
aftbit 2y ago
Two of my friends recently bought Kias, and they seem like really nice cars just from the brief time I've had to ride in them. Maybe I'm just seeing the difference between 2019 and 2023/24 models, but the camera/awareness features almost made me regret buying a Subaru Outback.
snapplebobapple 2y ago
Its because they are actually quite nice on the stuff one sees and feels and usually substantially cheaper with american manufacturer levels of agressive financing available. Thats why i own a kia. They won the test drive. Had the best tech integration, and were substantially less expensive to the point i could lose an engine or a transmission or the electrical system and still be substantially ahead (and if it happened five years or more out i could lose 2 of those and still be ahead). If you can do basic math and drive less than ~20k kms a year they will often be the absolutely obvious choice to buy, they certainly were in my local situation.

epolanski 2y ago

Because Kia/Hyundai makes very good and reliable cars and those are facts backed by lots of data. The only brands that are more reliable are all in Japan, with 3 exceptions (Mini, BMW, Porsche) being German.

orwin 2y ago
Reliability should be looked at by model, not by brand, because if you buy a BMW in the US for reliability, you may have a bad time considering the most available models there. And I will always go for repairability, that's why I will advise to only buy models with easy electronics and reliable mechanics so that the only shit that can fail me are the axle (which is cheap to repair) and the motor (which isn't). And preferably look at how much a second hand car with the same model is worth after 2 years, that tell a lot about a model reliability.
jordanb 2y ago
These cars are notorious for detonating engines between a problem with sand being left in the block from the casting to direct-only injection causing premature valve failure because egr crud doesn't get cleaned off.

aftbit 2y ago

Two of my friends recently bought Kias, and they seem like really nice cars just from the brief time I've had to ride in them. Maybe I'm just seeing the difference between 2019 and 2023/24 models, but the camera/awareness features almost made me regret buying a Subaru Outback.

snapplebobapple 2y ago

Its because they are actually quite nice on the stuff one sees and feels and usually substantially cheaper with american manufacturer levels of agressive financing available. Thats why i own a kia. They won the test drive. Had the best tech integration, and were substantially less expensive to the point i could lose an engine or a transmission or the electrical system and still be substantially ahead (and if it happened five years or more out i could lose 2 of those and still be ahead). If you can do basic math and drive less than ~20k kms a year they will often be the absolutely obvious choice to buy, they certainly were in my local situation.