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Haha, I guess everyone downvoting my comment is sore that they don't live in London proper! Otherwise, I'm not sure why so many people have downvoted a comment

Haha, I guess everyone downvoting my comment is sore that they don't live in London proper! Otherwise, I'm not sure why so many people have downvoted a comment pointing out that an article talking about roads in London is excluding on a technicality the roads in Central London that fulfil the criteria (the technicality being that they were renamed to include a determinant precisely because it was confusing) but includes roads that are only considered as being in London if you think everything inside the M25 is London. And yet, these weren't renamed because they weren't in Central London and so weren't deemed to be in conflict with each other. The residents in many of these places would consider them to be towns in their own right, and not in fact part of London.

helij 2y ago
Maybe because they actually are in London?
pjc50 2y ago
Everything inside the M25 is part of London, yes. This may annoy the residents of Watford who think they are not part of London because they aren't in the GLA, but morally it's London. If you are in a London postcode or a "London Borough of .." you are definitely in London.
- ralferoo 2y ago
  That was kind of my point. Many of these places don't have London postcodes nor are in the 020 phone district, and have had their own identity for a very long time as towns in their own right. Some of them have in recent years been subsumed into boroughs that are now Greater London, but they have historically never been considered to be London. Some of these places inside the M25 are not even in Greater London boroughs. Despite your baseless claim that they are "morally" part of London, factually they aren't. But anyway, my point was that these places in the article aren't really "in London" - they're merely on the periphery, and while it might be administratively convenient to sometimes lump them together as "Greater London", the fact remains that someone in e.g. Ealing when someone says "Let's meet on the High Street" isn't going to get confused and trek over to Acton or any of the other High Streets even further away, because the place feels like its own little area distinct from and separate to the real London.
pasc1878 2y ago
No that is not the definition of London. London here is Greater London - all but a tiny bit of which is inside the M25 (see dg's blog for the exception). There is much inside the M25 that is not in Greater London.

helij 2y ago

Maybe because they actually are in London?

pjc50 2y ago

Everything inside the M25 is part of London, yes. This may annoy the residents of Watford who think they are not part of London because they aren't in the GLA, but morally it's London. If you are in a London postcode or a "London Borough of .." you are definitely in London.

ralferoo 2y ago
That was kind of my point. Many of these places don't have London postcodes nor are in the 020 phone district, and have had their own identity for a very long time as towns in their own right. Some of them have in recent years been subsumed into boroughs that are now Greater London, but they have historically never been considered to be London. Some of these places inside the M25 are not even in Greater London boroughs. Despite your baseless claim that they are "morally" part of London, factually they aren't. But anyway, my point was that these places in the article aren't really "in London" - they're merely on the periphery, and while it might be administratively convenient to sometimes lump them together as "Greater London", the fact remains that someone in e.g. Ealing when someone says "Let's meet on the High Street" isn't going to get confused and trek over to Acton or any of the other High Streets even further away, because the place feels like its own little area distinct from and separate to the real London.

pasc1878 2y ago

No that is not the definition of London. London here is Greater London - all but a tiny bit of which is inside the M25 (see dg's blog for the exception). There is much inside the M25 that is not in Greater London.