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>What's the deal? Just collective denial? Yes, it will be denied until 1/3 of the US cannot be lived in safely. Then when people from the south start mass-mig

by jmclnx 2y ago

>What's the deal? Just collective denial? Yes, it will be denied until 1/3 of the US cannot be lived in safely. Then when people from the south start mass-migrating maybe things will change. :( And why water intensive manufacturing is locating in places like Texas and Arizona is beyond me. I hope when they can no longer operate there the Gov does not bail them out.

Schiendelman 2y ago
The government will definitely bailed them out. But they will also figure out how to recycle water. Not that it’s cheap, but it’s cheaper than other options like moving those facilities, likely. It’s hard to point to a particular thing that would be a “collapse”.
anonfordays 2y ago
>Then when people from the south start mass-migrating maybe things will change It won't be people from the South, it'll be people from the Southwest and California mass-migrating after they run out of water. >And why water intensive manufacturing is locating in places like Texas Do you think Texas is all desert? Huge swaths of Texas the size of other states get over 50 inches of rain a year. Plentiful high flow rivers all around make it a perfect place for water intensive manufacturing.
- function_seven 2y ago
  > it'll be people from the Southwest and California mass-migrating after they run out of water. I've always assumed that the cost to build desalination plants along the coast would be peanuts compared to the costs of letting our water supplies dry up and force a mass migration of tens of millions of people. It won't exactly be cheap, but a lot cheaper than the alternative.
  - anonfordays 2y ago
    Only if the energy prices in California (highest in the continental US) come down and desalinization becomes less energy intensive. It may make sense to use desalinized water for human consumption, but likely won't be cheap enough for water intensive agriculture and manufacturing.
cityofdelusion 2y ago
The southern U.S. has the highest rainfall, year-around crop growth, abundant/cheap freshwater, and due to high humidity, is probably the best equipped for higher temperatures thanks to universal air conditioning and heat pump installation. The western U.S. is where problems are going to arise first.
scientator 2y ago
Water policy can often be deeply counter-intuitive. So a case can be made that the solution to the west's water problems is actually to encourage more urbanization and manufacturing. Why? Because they use so much less water than agriculture. Replace an acre of farmland with an acre of homes and the water use plummets. Even replace it with manufacturing and the water use goes down. Agriculture is at the root of all the west's water woes.

by jmclnx 2y ago

Schiendelman 2y ago

The government will definitely bailed them out. But they will also figure out how to recycle water. Not that it’s cheap, but it’s cheaper than other options like moving those facilities, likely. It’s hard to point to a particular thing that would be a “collapse”.

anonfordays 2y ago

>Then when people from the south start mass-migrating maybe things will change It won't be people from the South, it'll be people from the Southwest and California mass-migrating after they run out of water. >And why water intensive manufacturing is locating in places like Texas Do you think Texas is all desert? Huge swaths of Texas the size of other states get over 50 inches of rain a year. Plentiful high flow rivers all around make it a perfect place for water intensive manufacturing.

function_seven 2y ago
> it'll be people from the Southwest and California mass-migrating after they run out of water. I've always assumed that the cost to build desalination plants along the coast would be peanuts compared to the costs of letting our water supplies dry up and force a mass migration of tens of millions of people. It won't exactly be cheap, but a lot cheaper than the alternative.
- anonfordays 2y ago
  Only if the energy prices in California (highest in the continental US) come down and desalinization becomes less energy intensive. It may make sense to use desalinized water for human consumption, but likely won't be cheap enough for water intensive agriculture and manufacturing.

cityofdelusion 2y ago

The southern U.S. has the highest rainfall, year-around crop growth, abundant/cheap freshwater, and due to high humidity, is probably the best equipped for higher temperatures thanks to universal air conditioning and heat pump installation. The western U.S. is where problems are going to arise first.

scientator 2y ago

Water policy can often be deeply counter-intuitive. So a case can be made that the solution to the west's water problems is actually to encourage more urbanization and manufacturing. Why? Because they use so much less water than agriculture. Replace an acre of farmland with an acre of homes and the water use plummets. Even replace it with manufacturing and the water use goes down. Agriculture is at the root of all the west's water woes.