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"The reason why Windows 10 users aren't upgrading is that they already know what Windows 11 is capable of, and they've made the decision not to use it" I'm not

"The reason why Windows 10 users aren't upgrading is that they already know what Windows 11 is capable of, and they've made the decision not to use it" I'm not so sure about that. Maybe it's because the general populace has spent the past 30 years being trained, often with on-the-spot reinforcement, that popups and banners == viruses. I don't think the average person on the street could tell you even one thing that "windows 11 is capable of". People do not use operating systems, they use apps.

spacedcowboy 2y ago
For me, Windows 11 is synonymous with "lots of unwanted adverts". I don't like adverts, so I don't like Windows 11 - irrespective of whatever program I "want" to run on the OS. I can run my Win10 box (when I absolutely must, because there's no equivalent to a Windows app) via MRD and it's ... not terrible. Downgrading it to 11 would make it even less attractive than it is now, so why would I do that ? I don't care about support - the only driver for me to downgrade it to 11 would be if the application authors stopped writing for 10. So far, so good.
- marcosdumay 2y ago
  Windows 10 already has an unbearable amount of adverts. Any rumor that Win11 has even more is enough to stop people. (I don't really know about 11, I guess my VM has an incompatible disk partitioning.)
ben_w 2y ago
> I don't think the average person on the street could tell you even one thing that "windows 11 is capable of". People do not use operating systems, they use apps. I can't even tell you which Windows is on my gaming laptop, much less what features separate it from other releases. Off the top of my head (no cheating) I don't even know which new features have appeared in the last 5 versions of iOS and I develop for that and actually watch the WWDC videos. Even when deprecation warnings pop up in Xcode, they're utterly forgettable. Normal users have even less reason to care about an OS than devs do.
nitwit005 2y ago
Maybe the only OS feature people might notice in Windows 11 is improved HDR support. Microsoft is essentially selling it on the basis of apps, so it's not surprising people are taking that attitude: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11 https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11
xboxnolifes 2y ago
I couldn't even tell you what Windows 11 is capable of. For my usage, windows has basically been the same feature experience since XP. UI changes, and annoyances, sure, but additional features? The only major change I have noticed and can recall since XP is WSL.

spacedcowboy 2y ago

For me, Windows 11 is synonymous with "lots of unwanted adverts". I don't like adverts, so I don't like Windows 11 - irrespective of whatever program I "want" to run on the OS. I can run my Win10 box (when I absolutely must, because there's no equivalent to a Windows app) via MRD and it's ... not terrible. Downgrading it to 11 would make it even less attractive than it is now, so why would I do that ? I don't care about support - the only driver for me to downgrade it to 11 would be if the application authors stopped writing for 10. So far, so good.

marcosdumay 2y ago
Windows 10 already has an unbearable amount of adverts. Any rumor that Win11 has even more is enough to stop people. (I don't really know about 11, I guess my VM has an incompatible disk partitioning.)

ben_w 2y ago

> I don't think the average person on the street could tell you even one thing that "windows 11 is capable of". People do not use operating systems, they use apps. I can't even tell you which Windows is on my gaming laptop, much less what features separate it from other releases. Off the top of my head (no cheating) I don't even know which new features have appeared in the last 5 versions of iOS and I develop for that and actually watch the WWDC videos. Even when deprecation warnings pop up in Xcode, they're utterly forgettable. Normal users have even less reason to care about an OS than devs do.

nitwit005 2y ago

Maybe the only OS feature people might notice in Windows 11 is improved HDR support. Microsoft is essentially selling it on the basis of apps, so it's not surprising people are taking that attitude: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11 https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11

xboxnolifes 2y ago

I couldn't even tell you what Windows 11 is capable of. For my usage, windows has basically been the same feature experience since XP. UI changes, and annoyances, sure, but additional features? The only major change I have noticed and can recall since XP is WSL.