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A middle class family that leaves their home for 2 weeks to go on vacation only to come back to find their apartment occupied? Are those the evil investors who

A middle class family that leaves their home for 2 weeks to go on vacation only to come back to find their apartment occupied? Are those the evil investors who should be punished? Now they are homeless instead

juststartguide 2y ago
A common misconception that people don't seem to get (and that most news outlets conveniently forget to report), it's that if someone enters your primary or even second residence, that isn't considered Okupacion, it's considered "Allanamiento de morada" (breaking and entering). Even if you were on vacation for a month. If that happens you call the police and they'll kick them out in 24 hours max.
- dukeyukey 2y ago
  And that applies to a rental property that is the renters only home but the landlords 200th property?
  - juststartguide 2y ago
    Yes it does. It would be the renters primary residence, so it's "Allanamiento de Morada". (Breaking and entering). Now if the current renter can't afford to keep paying rent and decides to occupy the property, that's considered Okupación. And that process does take longer.
- victorbjorklund 2y ago
  So it only applies to your third house? Seems a bit strange.
  - nephanth 2y ago
    Secondary residence here doesn't mean your 2nd house as opposed to the 3rd, it means a vacation home (ie a place you own for your own use, even if it's not you main residence. As opposed to a rental property)
  - taopai 2y ago
    It's not just that. Morada is any property that you live, use to live or use to do private activities in it. If you used at least once a year or so, then is morada. Like if it was your primary house. If you have a semi demolished house, or unused house during years, then clearly is it not a morada. That's the difference.
x3ro 2y ago
What is it with people and their strawmen. Squatting has, historically, predominantly targeted empty buildings like luxury rentals, offices, factories, churches, etc. Please show me a single example of somebodies primary home being squatted and they becoming homeless as a result. Sticking to Spain, there were about 17,000 squatting incidents (reported to the police) in 2021 [1]. I don't know about big cities in Spain, but e.g. in Berlin there are tens of thousands of squaremeters in unhoused space in form of offices and high-rent appartments. Do you really think people go to the homes people live in first? [1]: https://maldita.es/malditateexplica/20221026/datos-okupaciones-espana-denuncias-condenas/ https://maldita.es/malditateexplica/20221026/datos-okupacion...

juststartguide 2y ago

A common misconception that people don't seem to get (and that most news outlets conveniently forget to report), it's that if someone enters your primary or even second residence, that isn't considered Okupacion, it's considered "Allanamiento de morada" (breaking and entering). Even if you were on vacation for a month. If that happens you call the police and they'll kick them out in 24 hours max.

dukeyukey 2y ago
And that applies to a rental property that is the renters only home but the landlords 200th property?
- juststartguide 2y ago
  Yes it does. It would be the renters primary residence, so it's "Allanamiento de Morada". (Breaking and entering). Now if the current renter can't afford to keep paying rent and decides to occupy the property, that's considered Okupación. And that process does take longer.
victorbjorklund 2y ago
So it only applies to your third house? Seems a bit strange.
- nephanth 2y ago
  Secondary residence here doesn't mean your 2nd house as opposed to the 3rd, it means a vacation home (ie a place you own for your own use, even if it's not you main residence. As opposed to a rental property)
- taopai 2y ago
  It's not just that. Morada is any property that you live, use to live or use to do private activities in it. If you used at least once a year or so, then is morada. Like if it was your primary house. If you have a semi demolished house, or unused house during years, then clearly is it not a morada. That's the difference.

x3ro 2y ago

What is it with people and their strawmen. Squatting has, historically, predominantly targeted empty buildings like luxury rentals, offices, factories, churches, etc. Please show me a single example of somebodies primary home being squatted and they becoming homeless as a result. Sticking to Spain, there were about 17,000 squatting incidents (reported to the police) in 2021 [1]. I don't know about big cities in Spain, but e.g. in Berlin there are tens of thousands of squaremeters in unhoused space in form of offices and high-rent appartments. Do you really think people go to the homes people live in first? [1]: https://maldita.es/malditateexplica/20221026/datos-okupaciones-espana-denuncias-condenas/ https://maldita.es/malditateexplica/20221026/datos-okupacion...