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I'm looking over your stuff at http://markbao.com/ http://markbao.com/ ... it looks like you're more concerned with appearing to be an entrepeneur than with the

I'm looking over your stuff at http://markbao.com/ http://markbao.com/ ... it looks like you're more concerned with appearing to be an entrepeneur than with the work itself and product quality. These sites are simply fluff. Also, I'm not sure how you can really create quality small business collaboration tools without having been in the working world. Just an observation. Making $10B is not a very admirable life goal: http://markbao.com/lifegoals http://markbao.com/lifegoals . Not to mention that $10B will be today's $200M in fifteen years. Good luck with what you're doing, and be sure to focus.

markbao 18y ago
Thanks for the feedback. >These sites are simply fluff. The sites on there are pretty old, which is why I linked a newer list (incl http://ramamia.com http://ramamia.com) The third isn't an open site, fourth and fifth just experiments. >Also, I'm not sure how you can really create quality small business collaboration tools without having been in the working world. Just an observation. You're right, though I'm not really saying AOD is the best in the world while there are many more. It was something I wanted to manage my work, and it worked for me. Hopefully it helps others. If it doesn't, then so be it. >Making $10B is not a very admirable life goal: http://markbao.com/lifegoals http://markbao.com/lifegoals . Not to mention that $10B will be today's $200M in fifteen years. It's a goal and an aspiration, that I'd like to meet. Care to elaborate on why it's not an admirable goal? Again, thanks.
- thomasmallen 18y ago
  > Care to elaborate on why it's not an admirable goal? It smells like rank materialism when put in those terms.
  - markbao 18y ago
    Ah, okay. That's what I thought you were getting at. It's not a hard-set goal. I'd like to make money, but it's not the only thing I'm concerned about. The same page has other things not as materialistic.
    - woodsier 18y ago
      Forget about life goals, instead break them down into 1, 5, 10 and 15 year goals, and then maybe tag "life goals" right at the end. That way people can see something infinitely more important: you have a detailed map of what you want to do and where you want to go within certain timeframes. Though, it's important to know that they aren't stone-set, and should be revised at least twice a year.
- helveticaman 18y ago
  >It's a goal and an aspiration, that I'd like to meet. I see nothing wrong with this aspiration. I wish the best.
- jimbokun 18y ago
  "Care to elaborate on why it's not an admirable goal?" It's useless. It's like the cartoon with two academics standing in front a black board filled with equations, and in big letters right in the middle it says "then a miracle occurs." http://www.sciencecartoonsplus.com/pages/gallery.php http://www.sciencecartoonsplus.com/pages/gallery.php Having $10B net worth in no way gives you any guidance whatsoever what to work on today, tomorrow, or next week. It is not informative enough. A goal like "make something people want" might guide you in actually making those actionable decisions and give you a better shot at making $10B than having "make $10B" itself as the goal.
kirse 18y ago
I thought the same, but then I realized I did the exact same thing when I was his age. At that age, you're just starting to get your name out there and want to be noticed, so it's not a bad thing. Besides, that website just looks like a resume. $10bn is an admirable aspiration, but it's not quite a goal (or even a stretch goal). Usually I see the aspiration as the end of the race, and the goals as the individual, clearly-defined steps taken to reach the finish line. In the case of gaining a $10bn net worth, chances are there's going to be a ton of goals along the way =) The whole SMART acronym for goals really is useful here: http://www.ehow.com/how_2313828_write-smart-goals.html http://www.ehow.com/how_2313828_write-smart-goals.html Most importantly though, don't ever confuse net worth with self worth.
- markbao 18y ago
  >At that age, you're just starting to get your name out there and want to be noticed, so it's not a bad thing. Yeah, that's a part of what I'd like to accomplish. The more I get my name out, the more people I meet. I'm also saying (in the spiel/rant) that it's not the ONLY thing that one should be doing. >$10bn is an admirable aspiration, but it's not quite a goal (or even a stretch goal). Usually I see the aspiration as the end of the race, and the goals as the individual, clearly-defined steps taken to reach the finish line. Thanks. You're right—my fault for confusing the two :)
  - aswanson 18y ago
    I like the look and feel...are you using rails?
    - markbao 18y ago
      Thanks. Nah, I use Rails on apps, but for my personal site it's just overkill. Just using simple PHP. (not the updated one either, which is why the contents are kind of lame, new - http://files.markbao.com/newstuff.jpg http://files.markbao.com/newstuff.jpg)
      - aswanson 18y ago

markbao 18y ago

Thanks for the feedback. >These sites are simply fluff. The sites on there are pretty old, which is why I linked a newer list (incl http://ramamia.com http://ramamia.com) The third isn't an open site, fourth and fifth just experiments. >Also, I'm not sure how you can really create quality small business collaboration tools without having been in the working world. Just an observation. You're right, though I'm not really saying AOD is the best in the world while there are many more. It was something I wanted to manage my work, and it worked for me. Hopefully it helps others. If it doesn't, then so be it. >Making $10B is not a very admirable life goal: http://markbao.com/lifegoals http://markbao.com/lifegoals . Not to mention that $10B will be today's $200M in fifteen years. It's a goal and an aspiration, that I'd like to meet. Care to elaborate on why it's not an admirable goal? Again, thanks.

thomasmallen 18y ago
> Care to elaborate on why it's not an admirable goal? It smells like rank materialism when put in those terms.
- markbao 18y ago
  Ah, okay. That's what I thought you were getting at. It's not a hard-set goal. I'd like to make money, but it's not the only thing I'm concerned about. The same page has other things not as materialistic.
  - woodsier 18y ago
    Forget about life goals, instead break them down into 1, 5, 10 and 15 year goals, and then maybe tag "life goals" right at the end. That way people can see something infinitely more important: you have a detailed map of what you want to do and where you want to go within certain timeframes. Though, it's important to know that they aren't stone-set, and should be revised at least twice a year.
helveticaman 18y ago
>It's a goal and an aspiration, that I'd like to meet. I see nothing wrong with this aspiration. I wish the best.
jimbokun 18y ago
"Care to elaborate on why it's not an admirable goal?" It's useless. It's like the cartoon with two academics standing in front a black board filled with equations, and in big letters right in the middle it says "then a miracle occurs." http://www.sciencecartoonsplus.com/pages/gallery.php http://www.sciencecartoonsplus.com/pages/gallery.php Having $10B net worth in no way gives you any guidance whatsoever what to work on today, tomorrow, or next week. It is not informative enough. A goal like "make something people want" might guide you in actually making those actionable decisions and give you a better shot at making $10B than having "make $10B" itself as the goal.

kirse 18y ago

I thought the same, but then I realized I did the exact same thing when I was his age. At that age, you're just starting to get your name out there and want to be noticed, so it's not a bad thing. Besides, that website just looks like a resume. $10bn is an admirable aspiration, but it's not quite a goal (or even a stretch goal). Usually I see the aspiration as the end of the race, and the goals as the individual, clearly-defined steps taken to reach the finish line. In the case of gaining a $10bn net worth, chances are there's going to be a ton of goals along the way =) The whole SMART acronym for goals really is useful here: http://www.ehow.com/how_2313828_write-smart-goals.html http://www.ehow.com/how_2313828_write-smart-goals.html Most importantly though, don't ever confuse net worth with self worth.

markbao 18y ago
>At that age, you're just starting to get your name out there and want to be noticed, so it's not a bad thing. Yeah, that's a part of what I'd like to accomplish. The more I get my name out, the more people I meet. I'm also saying (in the spiel/rant) that it's not the ONLY thing that one should be doing. >$10bn is an admirable aspiration, but it's not quite a goal (or even a stretch goal). Usually I see the aspiration as the end of the race, and the goals as the individual, clearly-defined steps taken to reach the finish line. Thanks. You're right—my fault for confusing the two :)
- aswanson 18y ago
  I like the look and feel...are you using rails?
  - markbao 18y ago
    Thanks. Nah, I use Rails on apps, but for my personal site it's just overkill. Just using simple PHP. (not the updated one either, which is why the contents are kind of lame, new - http://files.markbao.com/newstuff.jpg http://files.markbao.com/newstuff.jpg)
    - aswanson 18y ago