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I believe that gpt-4o was really gpt-5, just renamed, and the multimodal stuff they demoed will actually be released within a month.

by ilaksh 2y ago

sa-code 2y ago
The gpt-4 branding has made quite a reputation, I will not be surprised if they milk it until it lasts
- ilaksh 2y ago
  Right and I guess everyone forgot that there was a panic about GPT-5 taking over the world or something and Altman publicly declared they would not be released GPT-5 soon. So that is why the name changed maybe.
jiggawatts 2y ago
My reason for believing that is that it was trained from scratch, and was not a fine-tuning or other optimisation of the existing GPT-4 model. We know this because OpenAI has publicly stated that they're using a different tokenizer, which would have forced them to start the model training from step one.
m348e912 2y ago
GPT-4o feels GPT5ish to me. It's crazy fast and doesn't make the stupid mistakes 3 and 4 did. Also it doesn't hallucinate nearly as much and its inference capability is impressive. I can be rather vague in my question and it typically understands what I am getting at.
- seattle_spring 2y ago
  I tried learning Godot with 4o for a few days and almost literally every answer was hallucinated and wrong. Didn't matter if I specified the version of Godot I was using among other specifics. It would even repeat mistakes that I had corrected earlier in the conversation (and it claimed to "save to memory"). It was a really eye-opening experience.
  - m348e912 2y ago
    Good to know. I did have it hallucinate pretty bad yesterday when I asked it about Microsoft AI Recall. After it kept telling me confidently about Outlook's AI ability to call back messages after being sent, I told it to search the internet on the topic and it came back with accurate data on Microsoft's new AI feature in Windows 11. So it's still not perfect :)

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I believe that gpt-4o was really gpt-5, just renamed, and the multimodal stuff they demoed will actually be released within a month.

by ilaksh 2y ago

I believe that gpt-4o was really gpt-5, just renamed, and the multimodal stuff they demoed will actually be released within a month.

sa-code 2y ago
The gpt-4 branding has made quite a reputation, I will not be surprised if they milk it until it lasts
- ilaksh 2y ago
  Right and I guess everyone forgot that there was a panic about GPT-5 taking over the world or something and Altman publicly declared they would not be released GPT-5 soon. So that is why the name changed maybe.
jiggawatts 2y ago
My reason for believing that is that it was trained from scratch, and was not a fine-tuning or other optimisation of the existing GPT-4 model. We know this because OpenAI has publicly stated that they're using a different tokenizer, which would have forced them to start the model training from step one.
m348e912 2y ago
GPT-4o feels GPT5ish to me. It's crazy fast and doesn't make the stupid mistakes 3 and 4 did. Also it doesn't hallucinate nearly as much and its inference capability is impressive. I can be rather vague in my question and it typically understands what I am getting at.
- seattle_spring 2y ago
  I tried learning Godot with 4o for a few days and almost literally every answer was hallucinated and wrong. Didn't matter if I specified the version of Godot I was using among other specifics. It would even repeat mistakes that I had corrected earlier in the conversation (and it claimed to "save to memory"). It was a really eye-opening experience.
  - m348e912 2y ago
    Good to know. I did have it hallucinate pretty bad yesterday when I asked it about Microsoft AI Recall. After it kept telling me confidently about Outlook's AI ability to call back messages after being sent, I told it to search the internet on the topic and it came back with accurate data on Microsoft's new AI feature in Windows 11. So it's still not perfect :)