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This shows the absolute lack of humanity from those doctors, that refuse to listen to patients. Now that was a resolved case, what about all the other cases? I
by ta988 2y ago
This shows the absolute lack of humanity from those doctors, that refuse to listen to patients. Now that was a resolved case, what about all the other cases? I am living with someone that was told for decades that it was all in their head and that they had psychiatric issues before finally they decided to listen and map the symptoms and realize it was a simpler endocrine problem. This is how patients are treated and especially if they are women and/or racialized.
- thinkingtoilet 2y agoIt goes both ways. How many alcoholics had this doctor treated that lied about their drinking? We can expect our doctor's to be perfect but addicts lie, and it's normal to expect addicts to lie. I think a little empathy would have gone a long way here, don't get me wrong, but saying they have no humanity is a bit much.
- escape_goat 2y agoI do not think it true that it goes "both ways." Patients do not have a collective responsibility to doctors. Patients should not go untreated because other patients lie about their addictions. Being a doctor means exactly watching dozens of horses go in and out the door each day and saying "that's a zebra" before the zebra makes it to the exit. There's a fundamental responsibility to perform differential rather than normative diagnosis.
- s1artibartfast 2y agoPatients do not have a collective responsibility to doctors, but I dont think doctors have the responsibility to provide a diagnosis at all. I think people have strange and exaggerated expectations. You don't go to a car mechanic and expect them to have all the answers and perfect accuracy. The expectation is that they will take a look and provide their fallible opinion.
- TillE 2y agoIf a particular doctor is clueless, that's what referrals are for. You don't just shrug and move on.
- azinman2 2y agoWhen there are single digits for the number of people experiencing this, and many digits for those who are alcoholics, you cannot expect anything but Occam’s razor.
- s1artibartfast 2y agoExactly, that is where patient responsibility for their own care comes into play.
- ok_dad 2y agoDoctors should be held to higher standards than auto mechanics.
- s1artibartfast 2y agoYou can make up whatever standard you want, but it will fail when an impossible expectation collides with reality. Reality is messy, and optimal care has a non-zero failure rate.
- ok_dad 2y agoMy standard is that doctors listen to patients, which they don’t do because they don’t respect them. They think they’re all knowing, incapable of mistakes, and let their personal biases rule. Every doctor I’ve been to has struggled to listen. Listening is not an impossible standard.
- s1artibartfast 2y agoI have never expereinced a doctor that doesnt listen to their patient. However most dont take everything the patient says at face value. Processing, weighing, and interpreting what patients say is a fundamental part of their job. Sifting through crappy data and figuring out what is relevant. You are paying them for their personal biases.
- seethedeaduu 2y agoIts very common to blame everything that a trans person may have to their hormones. It even has a name, "trans broken arm syndrome". This leads to a lot of trans people to not disclose their medications in hopes of receiving proper care.
- ta988 2y agoThey are not trans but yes it is even worse for them.
- seethedeaduu 2y agoI wasn't trying to imply that they were, only adding to the discussion.
- s1artibartfast 2y agoI think there is a major disconnect between the public expectation for doctors, and what their role actually is. It is more accurate to think of a doctors as job as offering aid to resolve a problem if they can, and not ensuring a particular outcome. People like to place the responsibility for the health on the doctor, but in reality, the responsibility always lies with the patient.