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> If you know then you'd agree that with the right setup ML can do this with a very high precision. No, it cannot. Not with a model that you can run on a phon
by Hizonner 2y ago
> If you know then you'd agree that with the right setup ML can do this with a very high precision.
No, it cannot.
Not with a model that you can run on a phone, no matter how specialized it is. Serious ML takes actual compute power (which translates to actual electricity).
Not with a model that you can train on the number of positive examples that are actually available. Current ML is massively hungry for training data.
Not with any model that's out there on people's phones and therefore subject to white-box attack. Adversarial examples are not a solved problem, especially not in the white-box environment.
Probably not with any model. You would need maybe a 0.0000001 false positive rate. That rate falls asymptotically with both model size and training.
> that you find inconvenient ;)
The last refuge of the fanatic is to call anybody who raises inconvenient objections a pedophile.
> I was waiting until Hitler gets invoked in a discussion about using tech to combat and prevent child abuse facilitated by tech, I was not disappointed.
The Stasi did not have anything to do with Hitler, and did not exist at all until after Hitler was dead. They were not part of the Nazi apparatus. Your ignorance of history helps to explain your willingness to give dangerous powers to untrustworthy insitutions, though.
- throwaway290 2y agoYou would not need a perfect model, since there will have to be a human and due process in the loop. > The last refuge of the fanatic Between us two there's one with maximalist and absolutist views. > call anybody who raises inconvenient objections The actual objections are dealt with. Properly implemented (like Apple's algo) it's not spying, inconvenience and detriment of an individual is a fact of life in any society etc. We just trade personal attacks now. > a pedophile Putting words in my mouth. > The Stasi did not have anything to do with Hitler, and did not exist at all until after Hitler was dead Thanks for correcting me. So basically Stalin then. Wow, such difference.
- Hizonner 2y ago> Putting words in my mouth. You know exactly what you intended to convey with that little smiley, so do I, and so does everybody else.
- throwaway290 2y agoI don't know where to start .It's not only that you assume I imply you are a pedophile, you also think that would be a derogatory word or something? Pedophilia is not a crime (like being gay), sexual abuse is. You're reading too much into this. The smile is there because you called me whining and I did the same to you.