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This reads like some Patrick Bateman self-styled narrative. I suspect in reality this behavior is extremely obvious and off-putting. About as effective a psycho

This reads like some Patrick Bateman self-styled narrative. I suspect in reality this behavior is extremely obvious and off-putting. About as effective a psychological trick as the kid who just finished reading "How to Win Friends & Influence People" repeating your first name twenty times in a conversation. In other words, it just comes off weird and likely hurts more than it helps any meaningful relationships.

russelldjimmy 2y ago
“Your compliment was sufficient, Louis” ;)
Johanx64 2y ago
The behaviour is extremely obvious and off-putting if you're not good at it and you're forcing it. Or if you start doing it when you're halfway through life lived as a stingy bitter asshole (by no fault of your own necessarily, you just grew up in poverty with people made of same cloth), your attempts most likely will feel awkward and unnatural. Since the person has practiced these strategies since early childhood, he would do these things naturally and flawlessly. You wouldn't be able to tell if it's genuine or not, because he has ALWAYS done this, you wouldn't know a different version of this person, or catch them being anything but, because they always have bought the first drink, have always been nice and a good conversationalist (which 90% of the time means, shut up and attentively listen to other person and 10% of time asking questions to make the other person open up about their passions and interests), and would always remember everyone they meet by their first name regardless of their statute or position. The behavior becomes a genuine, well oiled habit, a natural. You can only catch a "fake" if it's situational and your behaviour completely changes depending on who you interact with or well... if you tell people on the internet about it. Social relations and human behavior is transactional regardless if you're aware of it or not. People really do like to bury their head in the sand and pretend that it isn't though and that there's some sort of special magical fairy dust going on in social relations.
- seoulmetro 2y ago
  This is wrong. Manipulating friends with actual physical items never goes unnoticed as we attach those to our closest relations subconsciously. To think that someone can scam you without you knowing because they always scam you is hilarious when talking in the context of a close friend taking from you.
  - Quinzel 2y ago
    I’m curious as to how you think the social interaction plays out?… Like how do you think it’s conducted in such a way that it is so noticeable?
    - seoulmetro 2y ago
      They do it twice in a row? (let alone every time for their entire life) That's all it takes. Unless you have no other friends, this is enough. People keep okay tabs on how they spend their money if it's always disappearing.
      - Quinzel 2y ago
        Ohhh so you think people are actively keeping tabs on what they give and then what they receive in return in the context of their social interactions? That’s really interesting that you think that, because to me that would suggest that you think if you provide a friend something like a drink, you expect you should get something in return. Also, do they do it twice? How do you know? Have you constructed a concept of how the social interaction happened in your mind and made some assumptions?
        seoulmetro 2y ago
        Ah so this confirms that it was a joke. Thanks.
        Quinzel 2y ago

russelldjimmy 2y ago

“Your compliment was sufficient, Louis” ;)

Johanx64 2y ago

The behaviour is extremely obvious and off-putting if you're not good at it and you're forcing it. Or if you start doing it when you're halfway through life lived as a stingy bitter asshole (by no fault of your own necessarily, you just grew up in poverty with people made of same cloth), your attempts most likely will feel awkward and unnatural. Since the person has practiced these strategies since early childhood, he would do these things naturally and flawlessly. You wouldn't be able to tell if it's genuine or not, because he has ALWAYS done this, you wouldn't know a different version of this person, or catch them being anything but, because they always have bought the first drink, have always been nice and a good conversationalist (which 90% of the time means, shut up and attentively listen to other person and 10% of time asking questions to make the other person open up about their passions and interests), and would always remember everyone they meet by their first name regardless of their statute or position. The behavior becomes a genuine, well oiled habit, a natural. You can only catch a "fake" if it's situational and your behaviour completely changes depending on who you interact with or well... if you tell people on the internet about it. Social relations and human behavior is transactional regardless if you're aware of it or not. People really do like to bury their head in the sand and pretend that it isn't though and that there's some sort of special magical fairy dust going on in social relations.

seoulmetro 2y ago
This is wrong. Manipulating friends with actual physical items never goes unnoticed as we attach those to our closest relations subconsciously. To think that someone can scam you without you knowing because they always scam you is hilarious when talking in the context of a close friend taking from you.
- Quinzel 2y ago
  I’m curious as to how you think the social interaction plays out?… Like how do you think it’s conducted in such a way that it is so noticeable?
  - seoulmetro 2y ago
    They do it twice in a row? (let alone every time for their entire life) That's all it takes. Unless you have no other friends, this is enough. People keep okay tabs on how they spend their money if it's always disappearing.
    - Quinzel 2y ago
      Ohhh so you think people are actively keeping tabs on what they give and then what they receive in return in the context of their social interactions? That’s really interesting that you think that, because to me that would suggest that you think if you provide a friend something like a drink, you expect you should get something in return. Also, do they do it twice? How do you know? Have you constructed a concept of how the social interaction happened in your mind and made some assumptions?
      - seoulmetro 2y ago
        Ah so this confirms that it was a joke. Thanks.
        Quinzel 2y ago