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Second coming, rapture etc are not unique to religious nutcases. It appears to be a mental disease that afflicts the atheist PhDs and others alike. Over the la

Second coming, rapture etc are not unique to religious nutcases. It appears to be a mental disease that afflicts the atheist PhDs and others alike. Over the last 100 years, average temperature (of whatever use this metric is) has gone up 1.5 deg C. Meanwhile life on this planet has flourished. Planet’s green cover has increased. Humans are better off on pretty much every metric.

shrimp_emoji 2y ago
If you consider that transhumans or posthumans will so far exceed natural humans, and you have no choice but to ascend with them to a world of brilliance that we cannot imagine OR languish in some dingy naturalist backwater, then the story of the rapture is real! :D Those left behind are in hell.
n4ture 2y ago
You need to educate yourself some more my friend. You could start with the latest IPCC report's summary. Green cover won't tell you much about loss of insects, marine wildlife, microorganism in the soil, etc... Also I'd be interested in which specific metric you speak about when talking about humans being better off and which studies you are refering too. You'll reckon that if you don't even trust a widespread scientific consesus, I'll have a hard time trusting a random person on the interwebs.
- richrichie 2y ago
  Let’s say there has indeed been loss of insect life for the sake of argument due to “climate change” on account of human activity and that the knob can be turned back by some magical calibration of human activity. As a chief beneficiary of such activity (clearly you are using a modern computing/communication device from a climate controlled space to access a frivolous internet chat forum), why don’t you take responsibility and the lead? Perhaps give up your computer(s), phone(s), automobile, refrigerator, television and quit commuting and vacationing away from your local park and live off the land by growing vegetables. You know you can show us the ropes and kick start a global movement that will turn the knob.
  - Earw0rm 2y ago
    (We should improve society somewhat. And yet you participate in society. Curious. I am very intelligent.).gif
gmuslera 2y ago
"Flourished" in the context having the background extinction rate 2-3 orders above the normal is a bit overoptimistic if not intentionally misleading. Yes, we have far more cows that there were ever been, or far more units of a narrow set of crops than ever. But that is not a full system, in particular, a sustainable one. And the signals that things are decaying fast, at least for what matters for our civilization, are all around. And they are not just about climate or the natural world.

shrimp_emoji 2y ago

If you consider that transhumans or posthumans will so far exceed natural humans, and you have no choice but to ascend with them to a world of brilliance that we cannot imagine OR languish in some dingy naturalist backwater, then the story of the rapture is real! :D Those left behind are in hell.

n4ture 2y ago

You need to educate yourself some more my friend. You could start with the latest IPCC report's summary. Green cover won't tell you much about loss of insects, marine wildlife, microorganism in the soil, etc... Also I'd be interested in which specific metric you speak about when talking about humans being better off and which studies you are refering too. You'll reckon that if you don't even trust a widespread scientific consesus, I'll have a hard time trusting a random person on the interwebs.

richrichie 2y ago
Let’s say there has indeed been loss of insect life for the sake of argument due to “climate change” on account of human activity and that the knob can be turned back by some magical calibration of human activity. As a chief beneficiary of such activity (clearly you are using a modern computing/communication device from a climate controlled space to access a frivolous internet chat forum), why don’t you take responsibility and the lead? Perhaps give up your computer(s), phone(s), automobile, refrigerator, television and quit commuting and vacationing away from your local park and live off the land by growing vegetables. You know you can show us the ropes and kick start a global movement that will turn the knob.
- Earw0rm 2y ago
  (We should improve society somewhat. And yet you participate in society. Curious. I am very intelligent.).gif

gmuslera 2y ago

"Flourished" in the context having the background extinction rate 2-3 orders above the normal is a bit overoptimistic if not intentionally misleading. Yes, we have far more cows that there were ever been, or far more units of a narrow set of crops than ever. But that is not a full system, in particular, a sustainable one. And the signals that things are decaying fast, at least for what matters for our civilization, are all around. And they are not just about climate or the natural world.