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It would be even a bigger mistake not to. Such platforms should not be ignored as they are big enough to be important.

by servus45678981 2y ago

KeplerBoy 2y ago
Python seems to do pretty well ignoring iOS.
- servus45678981 2y ago
  Well Android and Windows are starting to struggle with marketshare so… not everyone wants to be converted to Linux and that is a fact
amelius 2y ago
Since I cannot install stuff from a third party on my iPhone without paying Apple (unless Apple says I can), it is clear that I don't own my phone. So it seems fair that Apple then is the one paying for the efforts of getting FOSS support on their device.
- cqqxo4zV46cp 2y ago
  Thankfully, you and Apple aren’t the only two choices here. That’s the thing about open source, isn’t it? Someone else is free to go and do it. And they are. The system is working as it should.
- Aaargh20318 2y ago
  > Since I cannot install stuff from a third party on my iPhone without paying Apple That’s weird. When I browse the App Store it’s full of free apps.
  - amelius 2y ago
    You stopped reading at "(unless Apple says I can)"
    - LoFiSamurai 2y ago
      That’s a weird way to say the developer decided to provide it for free
- ElFitz 2y ago
  > Since I cannot install stuff from a third party on my iPhone without paying Apple (unless Apple says I can) Today, that’s only partially true, finally, depending on where in the world you live.
alerighi 2y ago
They should. The only way to make these platform disappear is to ignore them for open source project. To me the mistake of open source software is to make programs compatible with proprietary operating systems, this way people that use these OS benefit from the open software, while people that use open operating systems cannot benefit from proprietary software that usually is exclusively for Windows or macOS. Beside that, this adds a lot of work to the open source community, work that could have been better invested focusing on open source and not wasting time ensuring compatibility with the latest Windows or macOS release working around crap and restrictions that these companies impose to distribute the programs in their platform (e.g. all the signing requirements, paying fees in case of Apple app store, etc.) Not that the user of open source software cannot run it on iOS or Windows, he can, but it has to port it there themself, no official support from the developers shall be ensured. Just distribute binaries for Linux and Android.
- servus45678981 2y ago
  Android and most of its binaries are in some way or another proprietary. Things like drivers and google play won‘t go away. It is the wrong approach, grow up.
- amelius 2y ago
  Okay, so perhaps we need an even stricter license than GPL.
- binary132 2y ago
  it is a total fantasy to imagine that a few nerds can make iOS disappear by opting out.
- pjmlp 2y ago
  It has been doing wonders for Desktop Linux and Linux mobile phones.
jojobas 2y ago
Such platforms should be ignored by everyone way before they become big.

It would be even a bigger mistake not to. Such platforms should not be ignored as they are big enough to be important.

KeplerBoy 2y ago

Python seems to do pretty well ignoring iOS.

servus45678981 2y ago
Well Android and Windows are starting to struggle with marketshare so… not everyone wants to be converted to Linux and that is a fact

amelius 2y ago

Since I cannot install stuff from a third party on my iPhone without paying Apple (unless Apple says I can), it is clear that I don't own my phone. So it seems fair that Apple then is the one paying for the efforts of getting FOSS support on their device.

cqqxo4zV46cp 2y ago
Thankfully, you and Apple aren’t the only two choices here. That’s the thing about open source, isn’t it? Someone else is free to go and do it. And they are. The system is working as it should.
Aaargh20318 2y ago
> Since I cannot install stuff from a third party on my iPhone without paying Apple That’s weird. When I browse the App Store it’s full of free apps.
- amelius 2y ago
  You stopped reading at "(unless Apple says I can)"
  - LoFiSamurai 2y ago
    That’s a weird way to say the developer decided to provide it for free
ElFitz 2y ago
> Since I cannot install stuff from a third party on my iPhone without paying Apple (unless Apple says I can) Today, that’s only partially true, finally, depending on where in the world you live.

alerighi 2y ago

They should. The only way to make these platform disappear is to ignore them for open source project. To me the mistake of open source software is to make programs compatible with proprietary operating systems, this way people that use these OS benefit from the open software, while people that use open operating systems cannot benefit from proprietary software that usually is exclusively for Windows or macOS. Beside that, this adds a lot of work to the open source community, work that could have been better invested focusing on open source and not wasting time ensuring compatibility with the latest Windows or macOS release working around crap and restrictions that these companies impose to distribute the programs in their platform (e.g. all the signing requirements, paying fees in case of Apple app store, etc.) Not that the user of open source software cannot run it on iOS or Windows, he can, but it has to port it there themself, no official support from the developers shall be ensured. Just distribute binaries for Linux and Android.

servus45678981 2y ago
Android and most of its binaries are in some way or another proprietary. Things like drivers and google play won‘t go away. It is the wrong approach, grow up.
amelius 2y ago
Okay, so perhaps we need an even stricter license than GPL.
binary132 2y ago
it is a total fantasy to imagine that a few nerds can make iOS disappear by opting out.
pjmlp 2y ago
It has been doing wonders for Desktop Linux and Linux mobile phones.

jojobas 2y ago

Such platforms should be ignored by everyone way before they become big.