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How recent is that? In my country, you had to study for 7 years before being a teacher, and pass an exam (master degree plus two years learning from another tea

by orwin 2y ago

How recent is that? In my country, you had to study for 7 years before being a teacher, and pass an exam (master degree plus two years learning from another teacher). Then, due to shortages (caused by low pay), they removed 2 years around 2010, so now its only 5 years - a master degree. They made the passing grade at the exam so low for some teachers (math and physics teachers) that you can treat it like it doesn't exist, and while the current government won't do anything next year because they have interest in makebelieve the past 4 years the education recruitment process hasn't been a disaster, you have talks about diminishing the requirements to a bachelor degree (they will wait until after the european elections to start pushing the idea imho). So most active teachers in place today had to study 7 years before working with kids. But when i will check the requirement in two-three years, i'll be able to say "they're pretty well paid for people with bachelor's degree!" too, event id it wouldn't be the reality for most teachers.

Jtsummers 2y ago
I don't know about those states, but in the US a graduate degree is not typically required to start teaching. There may be a requirement to earn a graduate degree within a certain period, but often not a hard requirement, more a soft "get this if you want a promotion" requirement. Instead they have to get (and maintain) certifications to keep their job. They can be hired without the certifications on a provisional basis. https://www.gadoe.org/Finance-and-Business-Operations/Budget-Services/Documents/FY24%20State%20Salary%20Schedule.pdf https://www.gadoe.org/Finance-and-Business-Operations/Budget... Going with the state whose schools I'm most familiar with. In GA those are the base salaries. Districts can increase the pay if they have the funding. Sometimes for specific fields only, math teachers in one county were getting paid almost 50% extra for a while due to a severe shortage a decade or so back. If you don't get a graduate degree most teachers will cap out at T-4 or T-5, which this year maxes at $58k and $66k with 21+ years of experience. If you earn through an EdD [0] you'll be at the T-7 level which is $81k. $23k or 15k difference [0] Doctorate of education, often a non-dissertation degree with a large practicum component, tedious to earn more than hard to earn.

by orwin 2y ago

Jtsummers 2y ago

I don't know about those states, but in the US a graduate degree is not typically required to start teaching. There may be a requirement to earn a graduate degree within a certain period, but often not a hard requirement, more a soft "get this if you want a promotion" requirement. Instead they have to get (and maintain) certifications to keep their job. They can be hired without the certifications on a provisional basis. https://www.gadoe.org/Finance-and-Business-Operations/Budget-Services/Documents/FY24%20State%20Salary%20Schedule.pdf https://www.gadoe.org/Finance-and-Business-Operations/Budget... Going with the state whose schools I'm most familiar with. In GA those are the base salaries. Districts can increase the pay if they have the funding. Sometimes for specific fields only, math teachers in one county were getting paid almost 50% extra for a while due to a severe shortage a decade or so back. If you don't get a graduate degree most teachers will cap out at T-4 or T-5, which this year maxes at $58k and $66k with 21+ years of experience. If you earn through an EdD [0] you'll be at the T-7 level which is $81k. $23k or 15k difference [0] Doctorate of education, often a non-dissertation degree with a large practicum component, tedious to earn more than hard to earn.