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1 - The initial idea to create Brave was to allow users to view ads and get paid for their attention. 2 - They've been caught replacing affiliate links with th

1 - The initial idea to create Brave was to allow users to view ads and get paid for their attention. 2 - They've been caught replacing affiliate links with their own. Based on that information what does your instinct tell you?

soundnote 2y ago
How do people keep peddling #2, when it isn't even factually correct on what happened? Sure, presume malice on the campaign links to Binance, but the bug was about turning people writing binance.us IN THE ADDRESS BAR into a campaign link, not replacing anyone's affiliate links on web pages, which is how it's always presented as.
NayamAmarshe 2y ago
Point #2 is false. Brave partnered with a few crypto exchanges. The issue (which is on GitHub) was a bug in the URL auto suggestion feature of the chromium browser. Instead of suggesting the links, it was replacing them ONLY ON THOSE 2-3 CRYPTO WEBSITES. The bug was fixed before it became news. It was fixed on day 1 of the report.
- ActionHank 2y ago
  Your defense was to mention that they were tied up in crypto? Maybe it's just me, but it really devalues a product when there is a crypto association.
  - karaterobot 2y ago
    That's a bias, then. If what the person you're responding to says is correct, being associated with crypto would seem to have nothing to do with it. I have no idea if it's correct, but it sounds like it could just as easily have happened with any kind of partnership.
- worksonmine 2y ago
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  - NayamAmarshe 2y ago
    Mistake = malware? The bug (YES BUG) only affected a couple of crypto exchange URLs, So why make it such a huge deal? Brave has stopped the affiliate links business since then. It also happened when Brave was like 6 months old. Their whole business is based around privacy. Are they really that desparate for the small affiliate commission? I'm sure there are better and more 'malware' like ways to earn money.
    - worksonmine 2y ago
      > Mistake = malware? The mistake was a business decision. Redirecting users to their affiliate links was on purpose. > Are they really that desparate for the small affiliate commission? Yes. That's exactly what they did. The CEO mentioned himself that they were looking for revenue streams. What's your stake in this?
      - NayamAmarshe 2y ago
        1. The business decision was to provide affiliate links as a suggestion, not replace the queries by default. This is proven by the fact that all the money making features in Brave are disabled by default and are opt-in. 2. Brendan Eich never said that it was supposed to be turned on by default, hence a bug. 3. Brave stopped the affiliate link partnership. 4. Brave is the only mainstream browser at the moment that does not advertise in the address bar. Even Firefox runs ads there BY DEFAULT! I don't see what one gets from being so biased against a browser company that fixed a bug even before it became a news?
        worksonmine 2y ago
        You're really grasping for straws here to defend this. I'll explain: > 2. Brendan Eich never said that it was supposed to be turned on by default, hence a bug. What are you even arguing against here? Turned on by default? Who was it supposed to be on for according to you? > 3. Brave stopped the affiliate link partnership. After the backlash they realized how stupid it was, apologized and removed the feature (not bug) yes. The articles from the time are still around, quotes and everything. > 4. Brave is the only mainstream browser at the moment that does not advertise in the address bar. Even Firefox runs ads there BY DEFAULT! Whataboutism, stay on topic. > I don't see what one gets from being so biased against a browser company that fixed a bug even before it became a news? It's not a bias, they crossed every line possible. My browser is not supposed to fuck with my requests, ever. No excuses. They considered it a good choice at the time and I will keep reminding people every time brave comes up. But you shouldn't worry, that means you'll still have a job hunting down such comments to damage control.
- asadotzler 2y ago
  Desperate attempt to confuse the issue. Brave introduced a "bug" that if no one noticed would generate large amounts of money for Brave and would have eventually spread like affiliate links on tech news sites. They tried for a money grab, got caught, and called it a bug. You're so gullible.

soundnote 2y ago

How do people keep peddling #2, when it isn't even factually correct on what happened? Sure, presume malice on the campaign links to Binance, but the bug was about turning people writing binance.us IN THE ADDRESS BAR into a campaign link, not replacing anyone's affiliate links on web pages, which is how it's always presented as.

NayamAmarshe 2y ago

Point #2 is false. Brave partnered with a few crypto exchanges. The issue (which is on GitHub) was a bug in the URL auto suggestion feature of the chromium browser. Instead of suggesting the links, it was replacing them ONLY ON THOSE 2-3 CRYPTO WEBSITES. The bug was fixed before it became news. It was fixed on day 1 of the report.

ActionHank 2y ago
Your defense was to mention that they were tied up in crypto? Maybe it's just me, but it really devalues a product when there is a crypto association.
- karaterobot 2y ago
  That's a bias, then. If what the person you're responding to says is correct, being associated with crypto would seem to have nothing to do with it. I have no idea if it's correct, but it sounds like it could just as easily have happened with any kind of partnership.
worksonmine 2y ago
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- NayamAmarshe 2y ago
  Mistake = malware? The bug (YES BUG) only affected a couple of crypto exchange URLs, So why make it such a huge deal? Brave has stopped the affiliate links business since then. It also happened when Brave was like 6 months old. Their whole business is based around privacy. Are they really that desparate for the small affiliate commission? I'm sure there are better and more 'malware' like ways to earn money.
  - worksonmine 2y ago
    > Mistake = malware? The mistake was a business decision. Redirecting users to their affiliate links was on purpose. > Are they really that desparate for the small affiliate commission? Yes. That's exactly what they did. The CEO mentioned himself that they were looking for revenue streams. What's your stake in this?
    - NayamAmarshe 2y ago
      1. The business decision was to provide affiliate links as a suggestion, not replace the queries by default. This is proven by the fact that all the money making features in Brave are disabled by default and are opt-in. 2. Brendan Eich never said that it was supposed to be turned on by default, hence a bug. 3. Brave stopped the affiliate link partnership. 4. Brave is the only mainstream browser at the moment that does not advertise in the address bar. Even Firefox runs ads there BY DEFAULT! I don't see what one gets from being so biased against a browser company that fixed a bug even before it became a news?
      - worksonmine 2y ago
        You're really grasping for straws here to defend this. I'll explain: > 2. Brendan Eich never said that it was supposed to be turned on by default, hence a bug. What are you even arguing against here? Turned on by default? Who was it supposed to be on for according to you? > 3. Brave stopped the affiliate link partnership. After the backlash they realized how stupid it was, apologized and removed the feature (not bug) yes. The articles from the time are still around, quotes and everything. > 4. Brave is the only mainstream browser at the moment that does not advertise in the address bar. Even Firefox runs ads there BY DEFAULT! Whataboutism, stay on topic. > I don't see what one gets from being so biased against a browser company that fixed a bug even before it became a news? It's not a bias, they crossed every line possible. My browser is not supposed to fuck with my requests, ever. No excuses. They considered it a good choice at the time and I will keep reminding people every time brave comes up. But you shouldn't worry, that means you'll still have a job hunting down such comments to damage control.
asadotzler 2y ago
Desperate attempt to confuse the issue. Brave introduced a "bug" that if no one noticed would generate large amounts of money for Brave and would have eventually spread like affiliate links on tech news sites. They tried for a money grab, got caught, and called it a bug. You're so gullible.