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How can we help make sure this happens? What practical steps can we take?

Rinzler89 2y ago
The first step is for Mozilla to finally stop shooting Firefox in the foot by dumbing it down into oblivion, adding unnecessary stuff nobody asked for or removing features people stayed on Firefox for, angering it's loyal userbase in the process and loosing market share. And then we can talk about what WE can do. What I can do, is criticize them and hope they listen. I'm not gonna use a product I dislike just of charity, to boost their marketshare, while they're swimming in those sweet Google dollarydoos and ignoring their long term users.
- guerrilla 2y ago
  There isn't anything we can do about that. We need to accept it's our best alternative despite being imperfect and figure out what we can do to popularize it.
  - Rinzler89 2y ago
    It's not my job to do any of that as I'm not a Mozilla employee. It's their job. I'm a user, and as a user I use the best tool for me because it's a tool, not a religion I must preach to others.
    - guerrilla 2y ago
      This is a terrible attitude. It has nothing to do with anyone's job. It's in our interest to make sure we have an alternative to use.
- LadyCailin 2y ago
  I need tab groups to switch :(
  - guerrilla 2y ago
    There seem to be a lot of ways to do that. What's stopping you? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/simple-tab-groups/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/simple-tab-gr... https://search.brave.com/search?q=tab+groups+for+firefox&summary=1 https://search.brave.com/search?q=tab+groups+for+firefox&sum...
  - MzHN 2y ago
    Tab Groups are finally coming! https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/heres-what-were-working-on-in-firefox/ https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/heres-what-were-working-...
    - Tmpod 2y ago
      Oooh nice! I hope they learn from extensions like Sidebery :)
    - LadyCailin 2y ago
      Oh nice! Looks like vertical tabs are part of that too! That’s not a critical feature for me, but it sure is nice to have. Looking forward to this release!
- sitkack 2y ago
  The majority of my web usage is FF and I agree 100. The fastest way to adoption would be to listen to the users and make the best web dev tools. FF drives me mad, tabs bookmarks, containers, profiles, extension security and transparency. Wtf does Mozilla spend its money on?
owlmirror 2y ago
Test your code against Firefox. I've encountered many bugs (mostly small and non-breaking issues) in major enterprise SPAs which happened because the developers only did their stuff in Chrome. Little things, like spans acting as check-boxes (why?) only being selectable via keyboard, or custom tool tips not aligning with elements come to mind. But also breaking issues, like using APIs that only just landed in Chrome or assuming the non-standard behavior of the Chrome behavior is the actual standard across all browsers.
2Gkashmiri 2y ago
every day new people come here with "i made a new browser extension" that invariably only has chrome support. demand they bring firefox up to speed or give preference to firefox addons. this is my 2 cents
DamnInteresting 2y ago
Stop using Chrome yourself, and help your less-tech-savvy friends and family switch to Firefox. During Firefox installation, select the options to migrate everything from Chrome, then set Firefox as the system default browser and uninstall Chrome.

The first step is for Mozilla to finally stop shooting Firefox in the foot by dumbing it down into oblivion, adding unnecessary stuff nobody asked for or removing features people stayed on Firefox for, angering it's loyal userbase in the process and loosing market share. And then we can talk about what WE can do. What I can do, is criticize them and hope they listen. I'm not gonna use a product I dislike just of charity, to boost their marketshare, while they're swimming in those sweet Google dollarydoos and ignoring their long term users.

guerrilla 2y ago
There isn't anything we can do about that. We need to accept it's our best alternative despite being imperfect and figure out what we can do to popularize it.
- Rinzler89 2y ago
  It's not my job to do any of that as I'm not a Mozilla employee. It's their job. I'm a user, and as a user I use the best tool for me because it's a tool, not a religion I must preach to others.
  - guerrilla 2y ago
    This is a terrible attitude. It has nothing to do with anyone's job. It's in our interest to make sure we have an alternative to use.
LadyCailin 2y ago
I need tab groups to switch :(
- guerrilla 2y ago
  There seem to be a lot of ways to do that. What's stopping you? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/simple-tab-groups/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/simple-tab-gr... https://search.brave.com/search?q=tab+groups+for+firefox&summary=1 https://search.brave.com/search?q=tab+groups+for+firefox&sum...
- MzHN 2y ago
  Tab Groups are finally coming! https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/heres-what-were-working-on-in-firefox/ https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/heres-what-were-working-...
  - Tmpod 2y ago
    Oooh nice! I hope they learn from extensions like Sidebery :)
  - LadyCailin 2y ago
    Oh nice! Looks like vertical tabs are part of that too! That’s not a critical feature for me, but it sure is nice to have. Looking forward to this release!
sitkack 2y ago
The majority of my web usage is FF and I agree 100. The fastest way to adoption would be to listen to the users and make the best web dev tools. FF drives me mad, tabs bookmarks, containers, profiles, extension security and transparency. Wtf does Mozilla spend its money on?

owlmirror 2y ago

Test your code against Firefox. I've encountered many bugs (mostly small and non-breaking issues) in major enterprise SPAs which happened because the developers only did their stuff in Chrome. Little things, like spans acting as check-boxes (why?) only being selectable via keyboard, or custom tool tips not aligning with elements come to mind. But also breaking issues, like using APIs that only just landed in Chrome or assuming the non-standard behavior of the Chrome behavior is the actual standard across all browsers.

2Gkashmiri 2y ago

every day new people come here with "i made a new browser extension" that invariably only has chrome support. demand they bring firefox up to speed or give preference to firefox addons. this is my 2 cents

DamnInteresting 2y ago

Stop using Chrome yourself, and help your less-tech-savvy friends and family switch to Firefox. During Firefox installation, select the options to migrate everything from Chrome, then set Firefox as the system default browser and uninstall Chrome.