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> taking the position that Apple is the baddie here is just as absurd. These are all big companies out to make a buck. I see this logic often, and I don't unde
by calibas 2y ago
> taking the position that Apple is the baddie here is just as absurd. These are all big companies out to make a buck.
I see this logic often, and I don't understand it.
If I did something people considered unethical, arguing that I did it out of greed wouldn't change people's minds. It would probably hurt my argument.
When a big company does something people consider unethical, there's almost always someone who mentions that the point of a business is to make money, as if that's a excuse for their behavior.
It's like there's a separate set of ethics for business, and the worst sin of all is not being profitable.
- rootusrootus 2y agoI'm not totally clear on what you are getting at here -- are you saying that yes, we can call Apple bad here? Because they made a choice to prioritize profit, which made other companies deceive customers with inexpensive workarounds, the real problem is back to being Apple? They forced these other companies to be deceptive? > I see this logic often, and I don't understand it. You may be reading more into what I said than I intended. I am merely suggesting that big companies are in no way deserving of our sympathy. In this case, Apple is looking out for their best interests, and so are the manufacturers selling bogus products. Nobody forced those manufacturers to choose this route, and as big faceless corporations out to make a buck, why let them off the hook and blame Apple? At least you know what you're spending top dollar for when you buy something from Apple. It's entirely your choice if it's worth it.
- calibas 2y agoWhen put together, your first couple sentences seem to imply that we shouldn't call Apple "bad" because they're just out to make a buck.
- rootusrootus 2y agoI'm clearly not doing a great job of conveying my thoughts today. I should probably spend more time reading what I've written before I hit the reply button.
- refulgentis 2y agoI get what you're saying, in a particular ingroup this is *the* gospel riposte to a particular lawsuit involving a epic corporation and Apple. And everyone understands it there. For whatever reason, that's the only place in tech I've seen a group of people nodding along to "complaining about bad thing is bad because the person complaining also is bad generally." It's a specious argument, so it sounds odd, and outside that context, people aren't likely to steelman it.
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