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Glad to see someone mentioned taking the computer offline. That too was my solution when I had to run batch jobs on a Windows workstation where there was no int

Glad to see someone mentioned taking the computer offline. That too was my solution when I had to run batch jobs on a Windows workstation where there was no intermediate job checkpointing (datasets could sometimes take two weeks). Just sneaker netting datasets because I could not trust the machine to do as it was told. What was most frustrating about that was when I would bring it back online to patch it. Evidently Microsoft wants to pretend that patching is cheap and so it would slowly sip CPU/disk/network for over an hour to get caught up. Leaving my beastly 16(?)32(?) core machine 99% idle. If I go to the settings page and click patch now, that should mean Ludicrous Speed Go! Also, one other cute Windows that that burned me a couple of times with this setup- evidently Windows will keep some patches in reserve. Connect to Internet, patch, restart, disconnect Internet, restart. Think you are safe? Haha, windows might decide an hour later to install and force reboot for that final update.

JohnFen 2y ago
> Haha, windows might decide an hour later to install and force reboot for that final update. When I have to use Windows at work, I often think that Microsoft must hate us all and are using Windows as a weapon to punish us.
- StableAlkyne 2y ago
  What could have even caused it? Some KPI about lowering "average update install time" getting chased?
  - TeMPOraL 2y ago
    Kyber sekhurity. Can't have unpatched machines, it causes botnets!
    - altruios 2y ago
      Seems like a high value target to attack. Imagine a xz situation visible by less people letting a (rootkit for a) bot net infect literally every windows machine in a matter of hours... Automatic updates are a good thing... /s 1/2 ...
dist-epoch 2y ago
> Windows will keep some patches in reserve Some patches depend on previous ones, and until those are installed, and rebooted, the newer patches will not be offered. This is most evident trying to get a laptop not opened for 6 months up to date, multiple check for updates and reboots over multiple hours are required.
- 0cf8612b2e1e 2y ago
  No doubt, but it would have been helpful if the system gave any indication it had a patch to install. Or would let me force install as much as possible at this moment. Instead, I took the system offline, did several reboots with healthy breathing time between them, and just had to hope the system would not puke the moment I walked out the door.
- vetinari 2y ago
  This got improved with Windows 10/11, though. Now, there are cumulative patches every month, so there are always just few patches to catch up (cumulative update for windows, cumulative for dotnet, defender, defender data, msedge, anything else? Of these, only the first two want to reboot).
ikiris 2y ago
Windows workstations are expected to be dumb clients. They and everyone else really think that if you have actual workloads on them that's what W Server or really linux is for.

JohnFen 2y ago

> Haha, windows might decide an hour later to install and force reboot for that final update. When I have to use Windows at work, I often think that Microsoft must hate us all and are using Windows as a weapon to punish us.

StableAlkyne 2y ago
What could have even caused it? Some KPI about lowering "average update install time" getting chased?
- TeMPOraL 2y ago
  Kyber sekhurity. Can't have unpatched machines, it causes botnets!
  - altruios 2y ago
    Seems like a high value target to attack. Imagine a xz situation visible by less people letting a (rootkit for a) bot net infect literally every windows machine in a matter of hours... Automatic updates are a good thing... /s 1/2 ...

dist-epoch 2y ago

> Windows will keep some patches in reserve Some patches depend on previous ones, and until those are installed, and rebooted, the newer patches will not be offered. This is most evident trying to get a laptop not opened for 6 months up to date, multiple check for updates and reboots over multiple hours are required.

0cf8612b2e1e 2y ago
No doubt, but it would have been helpful if the system gave any indication it had a patch to install. Or would let me force install as much as possible at this moment. Instead, I took the system offline, did several reboots with healthy breathing time between them, and just had to hope the system would not puke the moment I walked out the door.
vetinari 2y ago
This got improved with Windows 10/11, though. Now, there are cumulative patches every month, so there are always just few patches to catch up (cumulative update for windows, cumulative for dotnet, defender, defender data, msedge, anything else? Of these, only the first two want to reboot).

ikiris 2y ago

Windows workstations are expected to be dumb clients. They and everyone else really think that if you have actual workloads on them that's what W Server or really linux is for.