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AI products like ChatGPT much hyped but not much used, study says
- thiago_fm 2y agoNo shit Sherlock. Until the end of the year we'll see both NVidia and the hyperscalers that rent their h100s see their revenues already shrinking, there's no way we can have that many companies doing LLMs and being useful.
- vsnf 2y agoI have no skin in this game myself, nor do I have any strong opinions one way or the other (though I too have a hard time imagining truly useful LLM-based solutions), but if you're willing to speak with such conviction, I'd like to see your short positions against NVidia et all.
- dazed_confused 2y agoTo your last point, I’d like to point out there’s an adage that goes along the lines of “the market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent…”
- vsnf 2y agoVery true, which is part of why I don't have any positions on anything myself. But OP had a timeframe of 'until the end of the year'. If I felt strongly about something and had a timeframe like that, I'd place some bets.
- eviks 2y agoBut why would you expect someone else to behave like you in this tiny betting niche?
- vsnf 2y agoGood question. I guess I don't have any expectation that someone would. I was just stuck by the somewhat aggressive tone and strength of their statement. When people talk so aggressively I prefer to see them putting their money where their mouth is.
- thiago_fm 2y agoThe other user has commented already, I don't want to bet against this craziness, and in a way, I'm certain that NVidia will continue moving up, until it isn't!
- rsynnott 2y agoThis is kind of a silly argument. Let's say, to take an extreme, you _know_ a stock will fall dramatically at some point in the next five years, but you don't know _when_. You know that, until it falls, it'll be pretty volatile, and sometimes jump up. So, when do you short it? You probably do not short it on day one; that's going to be horrendously expensive. Really, betting against any tremendously hyped stock is a very dangerous exercise. Just ask those who shorted GameStop (which is _clearly_ dramatically overvalued, but is back to happily jumping up 10% in a day just because).
- allears 2y agoOK, so I'm neither a developer nor a content creator, and I can't think of anything useful a LLM could do for me. I tried a bit of chat and it was mildly amusing, but not for long. I certainly don't want one of them running my digital life for me. Isn't this just the zombie reincarnation of Clippy?
- Cheer2171 2y agoDo you have a business where you employ people to do office work?
- labrador 2y agoIt certainly is if that's how you use it. It makes a fine Clippy replacement. But if you want to compare the views of Robert Hughes the art critic with the views of Carl Jung the psychologist and have the AI tell what they might say in agreement about AI, then it's going to give you a different experience.
- clipsy 2y ago> But if you want to compare the views of Robert Hughes the art critic with the views of Carl Jung the psychologist and have the AI tell what they might say in agreement about AI, then it's going to give you a different experience. In my experience, trying to ask it a comparably detailed question on a topic in which I am fairly knowledgeable (and therefore capable of judging the response) results in output that is rarely insightful and not infrequently factually incorrect.
- labrador 2y agoIt's hit or miss depending on the topic. Marc Andreesson recently made a video about the mental space of AI contains low quality sections, average sections and super-genius sections. Claude Opus seems very well trained on art criticism and psychology. But even if it's not well trained, sometimes putting two things together that way can yield suprising results. An AI like Claude Opus makes this kind of knowledge surfing pleasant and fluid which is what you want when thinking creatively. Even the mistakes can spark insights because you have to ask yourself why you know it's a mistake.
- bicx 2y agoFrom what I can tell, the biggest proponents of AI in everything are the investors anticipating that people will want AI in everything. I actually enjoy using LLM chat interfaces like ChatGPT directly, and I do benefit from Copilot in VS Code. I just treat it as a fallible entity just like I would a person. I use it as a sounding board or a place to jump-start ideas. What I never use is anything resembling a product-specific AI interface within apps like Notion or Google Docs. I actively avoid AI writing assistants because I feel like authenticity is more detectable than some people realize.
- larodi 2y agoI expect top innovations with with llms to be in other areas than bots and chats. There are just so many other things to automate first.
- orsenthil 2y agoThese will get transformed into agents, which will be like websites of yesteryears.
- b3ing 2y agoIn the early days of the World Wide Web many people saw no need for a website, it’s still very early.
- weregiraffe 2y agoThat's what NFT people keeep saying, too
- kjkjadksj 2y agoSports card collectors too
- budududuroiu 2y agoAll I want is semantic search. I can make sense of what I find, I don’t want a Transformer to regurgitate slop to me
- wildrhythms 2y agoRight. I think there's value in being able to tell the LLM to give me the result in JSON format, for example. But the hallucinatory nature of LLMs poisons everything.
- budududuroiu 2y agoYeah, I think I’m still not fully trusting in that pipeline because running it twice could give me different results, even if they’re structured.
- kjkjadksj 2y agoWish you could supply the random seed yourself to at least make it a little more deterministic
- aussieguy1234 2y agoMany people who are doing quite well with LLMs for whom they save many hours per week might not be fully forthcoming about their competitive advantage, especially with the controversy around these tools.
- CraftingLinks 2y agoThere's too much focus on consumer facing products. Where this technology really shines is behind the scened with NLP tasks. Imo, it's a bit of a weird perk I can have a conversation with my NLP.
- nullc 2y agoPerhaps more abuse than use. Don't assume people are being honest about their use of ChatGPT...
- gargalatas 2y agoI am using ChatGPT every day. It helps me on my engineering tasks since it has a lot of knowledge. It also helps me on coding a lot but there I am using Github's Copilot. Certainly LLMs made my life way easier and they simplified many tasks that I was procrastinating and considering them huge hurdles on my everyday work and hobbies as well. This greatly improved my productivity and creativity! Trying to solve an engineering problem sometimes mind stucks in stupid ways to implement them. LLMs helped me to see another way of doing thigs greatly improving my efficiency! So we have improvement on creativity, productivity and efficiency. What else do we need from LLMs really? I don't understand why people are not using it.
- big_paps 2y agoIf you start digging into new topics lets say shaders or art history or whatever .. its hands down the best tool and teacher i ever had. You can get a broad overview over topics and repeat asking „stupid“ questions which are either hard to find on the net or you would not dare to ask anyone. I think these downplaying comments are kind of embarrassing for this kind of achievement in technology.
- o_nate 2y agoI'm curious about these "stupid" questions that are hard to find answers to on the net but an LLM can answer. Could you give an example?
- kjkjadksj 2y agoCurious how you can even tell the llm result is correct when you are apparently unable to validate it with other methods
- big_paps 2y agoI am not unable to validate. Its just hard to get answers to specific questions. Once you have the answer and the corresponding vocabulary its not hard to find by web search.
- big_paps 2y agoFor me the most significant help it gave was when learning shaders. Of course there is a large amount of tutorials but i am the type of person who has a hard time learning in a linear way if there a unclear points open (which perhaps are solved some chapters later). This type of conquering much ground by asking many questions is perfect for me and it was the first time i did not immediately gave up on shaders after two hours or so.