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> I believe the pandemic shook things up in the world of work in ways that are still poorly understood. The great political philosopher Edmund Burke noted that

> I believe the pandemic shook things up in the world of work in ways that are still poorly understood. The great political philosopher Edmund Burke noted that "custom reconciles us to every thing", and I think this applies to all sorts of workplace norms and practices. If we were used to the way things were done in organisations, we were willing to put up with all sorts of organisational policies that were burdensome (e.g., dress codes) or even abusive (e.g., the expectation that we should work beyond normal working hours if asked to do this.) > A year or two away from the office has opened a lot of eyes, and things that were once widely accepted (e.g., office politics) are now barely tolerated, if they are accepted at all. I wonder if this has anything to do with zoomers beginning to enter the workforce. They're often characterized as being far more cynical and vocally intolerant of "office shenanigans."

addicted 2y ago
> things that were once widely accepted (e.g., office politics) are now barely tolerated, if they are accepted at all. I’d argue that the fact that the author thinks that “office politics” have somehow disappeared is a reason to discredit anything the author might have to say wrt work altogether. It’s possibly true that with WFH the “politics” people have become much more adept at hiding the fact that they’re playing “office” politics, especially from those, who apparently like the author seem unaware of what’s actually going on at work, but the actual “office politics” has only grown significantly. It’s just more insidious now and the outcomes are not visible until much later.
bdw5204 2y ago
There were people who wouldn't put up with the absurdities of office "culture" before universal remote work. They'd end up going into academia or entrepreneurship. My guess is Zoomers are less willing to tolerate this because they didn't "get used to it" in the pre-2020 world when nobody else was questioning it publicly and those who did question it would be gaslit into thinking the insanity was normal. They see a critical mass of older people rejecting these ridiculous norms and that removes the fear of saying what they actually think and the ability of those who've given up hope of anything better to just shut their questions down.
marcosdumay 2y ago
Young people are vocal, older people revolt more silently. The effectiveness of each varies with the problem and environment. There's no generational line to push.

addicted 2y ago

> things that were once widely accepted (e.g., office politics) are now barely tolerated, if they are accepted at all. I’d argue that the fact that the author thinks that “office politics” have somehow disappeared is a reason to discredit anything the author might have to say wrt work altogether. It’s possibly true that with WFH the “politics” people have become much more adept at hiding the fact that they’re playing “office” politics, especially from those, who apparently like the author seem unaware of what’s actually going on at work, but the actual “office politics” has only grown significantly. It’s just more insidious now and the outcomes are not visible until much later.

bdw5204 2y ago

There were people who wouldn't put up with the absurdities of office "culture" before universal remote work. They'd end up going into academia or entrepreneurship. My guess is Zoomers are less willing to tolerate this because they didn't "get used to it" in the pre-2020 world when nobody else was questioning it publicly and those who did question it would be gaslit into thinking the insanity was normal. They see a critical mass of older people rejecting these ridiculous norms and that removes the fear of saying what they actually think and the ability of those who've given up hope of anything better to just shut their questions down.

marcosdumay 2y ago

Young people are vocal, older people revolt more silently. The effectiveness of each varies with the problem and environment. There's no generational line to push.