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Move along folks, nothing to see here. Tesla driver assist is just fine, thanks. Tesla surely followed all relevant software best practices, like MISRA, ISO-2

Move along folks, nothing to see here. Tesla driver assist is just fine, thanks. Tesla surely followed all relevant software best practices, like MISRA, ISO-26262, etc and is in no way liable for poorly designed software that has been enabling fully self-driving vehicles since 2015 as was promised by the CEO.

rayiner 2y ago
This has nothing to do with driver assist as far as I can tell? It was a drunk driver that had her foot on the gas the whole time and made no attempt to brake.
- BoorishBears 2y ago
  This is burying the other end of the lede: the suit is about someone who died because the car caught fire and their door couldn't be opened. So it could be seen as an engineering shortcoming, even though the cause was someone driving drunk
  - seoulmetro 2y ago
    Can't we sue the people who ran safety tests and regulations on the car to let it get on the road like that? Or the onus is on Tesla and this was a freak accident (manufactured wrong) they should have caught after design?
    - orwin 2y ago
      In this case, my guess is that door openings aren't regulated (unlike security belts), so it's on Tesla to design their car the sane way.
cbb330 2y ago
lets all do the popular thing and judge Tesla’s software reliability by a headline and the opinion of someone on the internet
- boringg 2y ago
  Long live the popular thing /s
- redundantly 2y ago
  Let's all just dismiss any criticism of Tesla's products and services by framing it as being specious because internet points.
- HeatrayEnjoyer 2y ago
  Remember to do the right thing and take the bullet for the massive corporation.
- AlexandrB 2y ago
  > Vox Populi, Vox Dei https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1593769469741932544 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1593769469741932544
pylua 2y ago
It’s a little confusing, but this incident is not about self driving or software (unless the latching system is software) If anything it’s probably about the latching system or how vulnerable it is to catching fire. We may never know the truth but I’m not sure what Tesla is at fault here for or why they would settle. Twice the legal limit for alcohol (alleged) by the driver is very bad for the plaintiff.
- redundantly 2y ago
  > We may never know the truth That's the point. They're trying to hide something.
  - pylua 2y ago
    Sounds like that could be potentially true. Hopefully it has been fixed as that was an older version of the car.
- strix_varius 2y ago
  Did you not read the article? They included info about an old case for background but this was about the Apple engineer who in 2018 was killed when his Tesla drove itself off the edge of a freeway and into a barrier at 71 mph.
  - pylua 2y ago
    I did read this article, which is what I was commenting on. “This incident” . The article was not about the previous case even though it was referenced.
  - LodeOfCode 2y ago
    That case was settled in April[1]. TFA is about the passenger in the 2016 crash [1]https://www.ttnews.com/articles/tesla-settles-suit-autopilot https://www.ttnews.com/articles/tesla-settles-suit-autopilot

rayiner 2y ago

This has nothing to do with driver assist as far as I can tell? It was a drunk driver that had her foot on the gas the whole time and made no attempt to brake.

BoorishBears 2y ago
This is burying the other end of the lede: the suit is about someone who died because the car caught fire and their door couldn't be opened. So it could be seen as an engineering shortcoming, even though the cause was someone driving drunk
- seoulmetro 2y ago
  Can't we sue the people who ran safety tests and regulations on the car to let it get on the road like that? Or the onus is on Tesla and this was a freak accident (manufactured wrong) they should have caught after design?
  - orwin 2y ago
    In this case, my guess is that door openings aren't regulated (unlike security belts), so it's on Tesla to design their car the sane way.

cbb330 2y ago

lets all do the popular thing and judge Tesla’s software reliability by a headline and the opinion of someone on the internet

boringg 2y ago
Long live the popular thing /s
redundantly 2y ago
Let's all just dismiss any criticism of Tesla's products and services by framing it as being specious because internet points.
HeatrayEnjoyer 2y ago
Remember to do the right thing and take the bullet for the massive corporation.
AlexandrB 2y ago
> Vox Populi, Vox Dei https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1593769469741932544 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1593769469741932544

pylua 2y ago

It’s a little confusing, but this incident is not about self driving or software (unless the latching system is software) If anything it’s probably about the latching system or how vulnerable it is to catching fire. We may never know the truth but I’m not sure what Tesla is at fault here for or why they would settle. Twice the legal limit for alcohol (alleged) by the driver is very bad for the plaintiff.

redundantly 2y ago
> We may never know the truth That's the point. They're trying to hide something.
- pylua 2y ago
  Sounds like that could be potentially true. Hopefully it has been fixed as that was an older version of the car.
strix_varius 2y ago
Did you not read the article? They included info about an old case for background but this was about the Apple engineer who in 2018 was killed when his Tesla drove itself off the edge of a freeway and into a barrier at 71 mph.
- pylua 2y ago
  I did read this article, which is what I was commenting on. “This incident” . The article was not about the previous case even though it was referenced.
- LodeOfCode 2y ago
  That case was settled in April[1]. TFA is about the passenger in the 2016 crash [1]https://www.ttnews.com/articles/tesla-settles-suit-autopilot https://www.ttnews.com/articles/tesla-settles-suit-autopilot