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Well, there is Odoo. Which is pretty much exactly what OpenKoda is (FOSS ERP). Odoo is doing quite well. It made Fabien Panckaers the youngest billionaire in B

Well, there is Odoo. Which is pretty much exactly what OpenKoda is (FOSS ERP). Odoo is doing quite well. It made Fabien Panckaers the youngest billionaire in Belgium.

mgl 2y ago
Yes, I think you could compare Openkoda with Odoo, but well... we are nowhere near being billionaires ;)
- megadal 2y ago
  Assuming you are apart of the team, I'm sure you know Odoo is 20 years old. So, I can't see why in time there couldn't be real competition. OpenKoda and Odoo actually have sparked interesting questions for me about what an Open source ERP market would look like. One conclusion I came to is as opposed to vendor lock-in as most ERP/CRM products try to enforce, it would actually be better to go the opposite direction (high compatibility with existing alternatives). That said, have you guys considered allowing imports from Odoo into OpenKoda or other deep integrations? In theory, I feel like you can run Odoo apps in OpenKoda, or even vice versa. The experience would be suboptimal but being split between two ERP systems is too.
  - mgl 2y ago
    We meet a lot of companies who are not happy with software solutions which are hard to modify. It's not even about the cost, but about the limitations and poor development velocity. These companies strive to build something innovative, they just find these closed platforms really cumbersome and slow to deliver. When you start investing millions of dollars into a bespoke solution you really want to truly own it at some point. And this is impossible with closed and proprietary application platforms.
    - octopoc 2y ago
      Where do you meet such companies?
tomrod 2y ago
Odoo's quest for monetization from open source has been a bit off-putting. I stopped using it a few quarters back due to that. Community and Enterprise are becoming too disjointed.
- megadal 2y ago
  Thanks for the feedback. I've never used Odoo or OpenKoda, just read a lot about both and was impressed. Sad to hear about Odoo's disjointed approach to enterprise monetization. Hopefully OpenKoda takes note.
  - mgl 2y ago
    Point taken.
- acaloiar 2y ago
  I can't speak specifically for Odoo's quest for monetization because I'm not a user; it very well may not be a healthy one. But in general I think FOSS monetization should be celebrated. Successful open source software businesses are generally good for everyone except for closed source software businesses. Is there something in particular that's flawed with Odoo's business?
  - yashasolutions 2y ago
    You are correct that monetization need to celebrated in OSS software. This being said, when your open-source version is but a shadow version of the enterprise version, then you're doing something wrong. That's what op was hinting at. I'd add if you want people to use and promote your software, you also want to make sure the documentation is usable. Though regarding Odoo, I would say the situation is somehow better in this regard than it used to be a 5~7 years ago.
- api 2y ago
  What would be a better approach?
jamesbfb 2y ago
Hey! As a Odoo dev, it’s really cool to see Odoo mentioned here. I was thinking the same thing regarding its similarities. I’ve always regarded Odoo as the “batteries included” ERP framework. Here in Australia, Odoo is finally starting to hit some strides. We’re seeing more jobs in the market requesting Odoo experience, at our work we’re onboarding more customers than we have before. All said, I’m definitely going to fire up OpenKoda and brush up on my Java :)
- mgl 2y ago
  Just want to say a friendly "hello" - great to see Odoo team here!
ensignavenger 2y ago
Odoo is very open core, only a thin core is open source, whereas the vast majority of features are closed source.
- sakesun 2y ago
  That's not true. The enterprise part is much smaller than the open source part.
  - ensignavenger 2y ago
    I'm not sure how you are measuring "size", but I was going on features. Though I haven't done a formal review of which features are open and closed, and the xompany doesn't appear to document it anywhere, so I may be wrong. It seems like when I have looked into it in the past mostly it is a core framework with a few open source apps and whole bucnh of closed ones and the marketing doesn't clearly state what is open and closed.
    - rufugee 2y ago
      Why would you make a definitive statement about a product without doing the research to make sure you know what you're talking about?
      - ensignavenger 2y ago
        If you expect every comment on this site to be backed by a massive amount of reasearch, then you are in the wrong place. I have looked into Odoo several times, I was expressing my impressions of the product. Sorry if that wasn't clear in my initial comment.

Well, there is Odoo. Which is pretty much exactly what OpenKoda is (FOSS ERP). Odoo is doing quite well. It made Fabien Panckaers the youngest billionaire in Belgium.

mgl 2y ago

Yes, I think you could compare Openkoda with Odoo, but well... we are nowhere near being billionaires ;)

megadal 2y ago
Assuming you are apart of the team, I'm sure you know Odoo is 20 years old. So, I can't see why in time there couldn't be real competition. OpenKoda and Odoo actually have sparked interesting questions for me about what an Open source ERP market would look like. One conclusion I came to is as opposed to vendor lock-in as most ERP/CRM products try to enforce, it would actually be better to go the opposite direction (high compatibility with existing alternatives). That said, have you guys considered allowing imports from Odoo into OpenKoda or other deep integrations? In theory, I feel like you can run Odoo apps in OpenKoda, or even vice versa. The experience would be suboptimal but being split between two ERP systems is too.
- mgl 2y ago
  We meet a lot of companies who are not happy with software solutions which are hard to modify. It's not even about the cost, but about the limitations and poor development velocity. These companies strive to build something innovative, they just find these closed platforms really cumbersome and slow to deliver. When you start investing millions of dollars into a bespoke solution you really want to truly own it at some point. And this is impossible with closed and proprietary application platforms.
  - octopoc 2y ago
    Where do you meet such companies?

tomrod 2y ago

Odoo's quest for monetization from open source has been a bit off-putting. I stopped using it a few quarters back due to that. Community and Enterprise are becoming too disjointed.

megadal 2y ago
Thanks for the feedback. I've never used Odoo or OpenKoda, just read a lot about both and was impressed. Sad to hear about Odoo's disjointed approach to enterprise monetization. Hopefully OpenKoda takes note.
- mgl 2y ago
  Point taken.
acaloiar 2y ago
I can't speak specifically for Odoo's quest for monetization because I'm not a user; it very well may not be a healthy one. But in general I think FOSS monetization should be celebrated. Successful open source software businesses are generally good for everyone except for closed source software businesses. Is there something in particular that's flawed with Odoo's business?
- yashasolutions 2y ago
  You are correct that monetization need to celebrated in OSS software. This being said, when your open-source version is but a shadow version of the enterprise version, then you're doing something wrong. That's what op was hinting at. I'd add if you want people to use and promote your software, you also want to make sure the documentation is usable. Though regarding Odoo, I would say the situation is somehow better in this regard than it used to be a 5~7 years ago.
api 2y ago
What would be a better approach?

jamesbfb 2y ago

Hey! As a Odoo dev, it’s really cool to see Odoo mentioned here. I was thinking the same thing regarding its similarities. I’ve always regarded Odoo as the “batteries included” ERP framework. Here in Australia, Odoo is finally starting to hit some strides. We’re seeing more jobs in the market requesting Odoo experience, at our work we’re onboarding more customers than we have before. All said, I’m definitely going to fire up OpenKoda and brush up on my Java :)

mgl 2y ago
Just want to say a friendly "hello" - great to see Odoo team here!

ensignavenger 2y ago

Odoo is very open core, only a thin core is open source, whereas the vast majority of features are closed source.

sakesun 2y ago
That's not true. The enterprise part is much smaller than the open source part.
- ensignavenger 2y ago
  I'm not sure how you are measuring "size", but I was going on features. Though I haven't done a formal review of which features are open and closed, and the xompany doesn't appear to document it anywhere, so I may be wrong. It seems like when I have looked into it in the past mostly it is a core framework with a few open source apps and whole bucnh of closed ones and the marketing doesn't clearly state what is open and closed.
  - rufugee 2y ago
    Why would you make a definitive statement about a product without doing the research to make sure you know what you're talking about?
    - ensignavenger 2y ago
      If you expect every comment on this site to be backed by a massive amount of reasearch, then you are in the wrong place. I have looked into Odoo several times, I was expressing my impressions of the product. Sorry if that wasn't clear in my initial comment.